Shamus O'Sean Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, CLASSIC said: The mind boggles if I was to venture into the world of AG & Kegging. You will, my mature aged padawan. You will! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Magnificent drop of a Pale Ale, hope my clone lives up to expectations... after 10pm my time it’s underground drinking, proper little hobbit that I am 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 And a bit of Irish to go with it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone boy Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: What do you think went wrong with the "red" part of Irish Red Ale in this case? Hey Shamus. It was my first go at an Irish red ale so it was definitely a learning experience. I was thinking the colour would come from the Gladfield Redback malt (330g). After doing some more research it looks as though I need a small amount of roasted barley as well - say 70g or thereabouts. Otto VB @Otto Von Blotto has an older recipe posted that @alilley brought to my attention-thanks OVB and Alilley...In that recipe OVB uses 75g black patent. I can’t get black patent so my next attempt I’ll try roasted barley and some Gladfields Shepherds Delight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: You will, my mature aged padawan. You will! Thank you Master Skywalker. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Those Plazzie Kegs that Ozzie @ozdevil posted for us from Kegland makes you think about putting one toe in the water. Got about 160 Plazzie PET bottles though. What to do? It's tempting to Keg that's for sure especially with those plazzies at such a cheap price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Tone boy said: Hey Shamus. It was my first go at an Irish red ale so it was definitely a learning experience. I was thinking the colour would come from the Gladfield Redback malt (330g). After doing some more research it looks as though I need a small amount of roasted barley as well - say 70g or thereabouts. Otto VB @Otto Von Blotto has an older recipe posted that @alilley brought to my attention-thanks OVB and Alilley...In that recipe OVB uses 75g black patent. I can’t get black patent so my next attempt I’ll try roasted barley and some Gladfields Shepherds Delight. I like the sound of the Gladfields Shepherds Delight. Gladfield have a nice sounding base recipe for a Red Ale on their website. Interesting they recommend adding the Shepherds Delight with 10 minutes of the mash to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Straps Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I'm a happy camper, a week after my little melt down about how badly my beer was performing, in so much as the head was non existant, my faith has been restored. Huge difference. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Hey @Boot Straps is that a before an after comparison ? It sure looks nice anyway, Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Straps Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 @CLASSICYes mate, hardly looks like the same beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Boot Straps said: @CLASSICYes mate, hardly looks like the same beer. How long apart were the photos taken ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Straps Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Awesome, enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Straps Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, CLASSIC said: Awesome, enjoy. @CLASSIC Cheers mate, I will and I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ozdevil Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 @Boot Straps you certainly have a head there in what you want rember seeing your 1st pic of the pic, i thought i had replied to that one but didnt My opinion only , i think you have over carbonated the beer as i have noticed in the head the big air pockets in the froth The thing is when you 1st posted there was hardly any conditioning happen and becuase you have given another week it has conditioned some more and probably in 2 weeks it will be at its prime. as a result of that extra week the head has started to form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Straps Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ozdevil said: @Boot Straps you certainly have a head there in what you want rember seeing your 1st pic of the pic, i thought i had replied to that one but didnt My opinion only , i think you have over carbonated the beer as i have noticed in the head the big air pockets in the froth The thing is when you 1st posted there was hardly any conditioning happen and becuase you have given another week it has conditioned some more and probably in 2 weeks it will be at its prime. as a result of that extra week the head has started to form Yeah thanks Mate, to be honest I think it was more from pouring the beer from height, which I believe opened up the bubbles and I didn't really have to do' Because the next beer which I poured normally had tighter bubbles and looked like a normal head. @ozdevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Boot Straps said: Yeah thanks Mate, to be honest I think it was more from pouring the beer from height, which I believe opened up the bubbles and I didn't really have to do' Because the next beer which I poured normally had tighter bubbles and looked like a normal head. @ozdevil great stuff after i posted i had a bit of thought about it it may have been the pour why.. the thing is be a bit patient with bottle carbing as it does need conditioning and may take longer then expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Interesting they recommend adding the Shepherds Delight with 10 minutes of the mash to go. It allows for all the benefits from the malt like the colour and flavour without getting too astringent and overpowering, which the real dark malts can. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 23 hours ago, CLASSIC said: Nice looking drop & no bird sh... on the fence either, the Graubster will think I am having a go. City Slickers mate... no birds that sit and @#$% on fences... Nice drop @James Lao would you recommend Verdant for an IPA... think like you that I have been just using plodding old US05... albeit with much success ; ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 18 hours ago, CLASSIC said: Hey Shamus, you know what I actually can taste a distinct difference to the normal Stout taste, it really is there, so far I haven't figured how to describe it but I like it. Hey @Shamus O'Sean with my AG I use wheat regularly for head retention mouthfeel etc but don't reckon it pushes a distinct wheat flavour... when coupled with HW yeasts the flavour is completely different... but if you brew a barley malt beer with HW yeast it tastes way much more like weissbier.... I have done a split FV same Wort different yeast comparison with a barley dominant ag wort... and the HW yeast beer tasted very much like weissbier... well closer to weissbier than lager/pils/ales... and more like Coopers Sparkling bizarrely I don't reckon wheat really pushes a big flavour profile change... more texture... but I am happy to be corrected... and anyway the Coopers Wheat Liquid Malt is 50/50 barley anyway... All good... great discussion Brewers! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Graubart said: City Slickers mate... no birds that sit and @#$% on fences... Nice drop @James Lao would you recommend Verdant for an IPA... think like you that I have been just using plodding old US05... albeit with much success ; ) I love our birdlife & we would all get different types in our gardens/yards depending on location. I get a lot of Honey Eaters, Willy Wagtails, Spoggys, Minors, Murray Magpies etc but the @x#+*&^ Blackbirds & Pigeons make the most mess - blackbirds dig around a make a mess in the ground cover & the Pigeons jus sh.... everywhere. But they are nice to have around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CLASSIC said: Pigeons Best thing for those ferals is Pigeon Pie... and suspect you may have baked four and twenty Blackbirds in a pie as well @CLASSIC Phil? Not a supporter of the feral introduced species... Edited May 9, 2021 by Graubart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Graubart said: Best thing for those ferals is Pigeon Pie... and suspect you may have baked four and twenty Blackbirds in a pie as well @CLASSIC Phil? Not a supporter of the feral introduced species... We used to eat some Pigeon varieties when I was a kid in the country but the city slicker dudes that crap everywhere these days wouldn't be the same as the scavenge everything, Blackbirds seem to me to be pretty much a waste of time. I am with you on the feral species. Give me a good old Chook/Turkey/Duck etc but I do like Game Bird, Pheasant, Quail etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Graubart said: Hey @Shamus O'Sean with my AG I use wheat regularly for head retention mouthfeel etc but don't reckon it pushes a distinct wheat flavour... when coupled with HW yeasts the flavour is completely different... but if you brew a barley malt beer with HW yeast it tastes way much more like weissbier.... I have done a split FV same Wort different yeast comparison with a barley dominant ag wort... and the HW yeast beer tasted very much like weissbier... well closer to weissbier than lager/pils/ales... and more like Coopers Sparkling bizarrely I don't reckon wheat really pushes a big flavour profile change... more texture... but I am happy to be corrected... and anyway the Coopers Wheat Liquid Malt is 50/50 barley anyway... All good... great discussion Brewers! Further to the Wheat Malt Extract I will be adding some to my next 2 brews in the 30l FV's as I can now see the value as far as body, mouthfeel, head retention, I used it in the Stout for an experiment & it really is a nice improvement, Thanks to Shamus & the Graubster telling me to use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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