thebeerpig Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Hi Malter, just a bit curious on how you know what a coriander and dog turd smoothie tastes like. Asking for a friend 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Malter White said: This is Coopers European lager which now has the "new and improved" ALE yeast included. @Coopers DIY Beer Team why was this changed? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) @Malter White did you add any flavour hops? It's probably the only way it will taste half decent. @beach_life we have already been through this with coopers malter started a whole thread. They were tagged in and gave one short scripted response. Apparently it's for brewers who don't have propper temp control. It now contains the same half Ale half Lager yeast the APA has. Edited March 5, 2023 by Uhtred Of Beddanburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, beach_life said: @Coopers DIY Beer Team why was this changed? The spin was it was changed to make Euro lager more accessible to brewers without temp control. To the more cynical of us it was changed as a cost cutting measure. For those without temp control there's already Original Series lager with ale yeast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Uhtred Of Beddanburg said: @Malter White did you add any flavour hops? It's probably the only way it will taste half decent. @beach_life No. The European lager was fine without hops added when it had lager yeast. The green neck lager recipe was great. That's no longer the case. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Malter White said: No. The European lager was fine without hops added when it had lager yeast. The green neck lager recipe was great. That's no longer the case. Yes I only ever made it once without hop flavour and thought it was nice with aging. They definitely screwed this one as you said there was already the OS Lager with ale yeast nothing but corporate spin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Charlie Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Malter White said: Tastes like a coriander and dog turd smoothie That reminds me, I must mow the lawn. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Uhtred Of Beddanburg said: @beach_life we have already been through this with coopers malter started a whole thread. They were tagged in and gave one short scripted response. All good but perhaps some feedback may be taken on board? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 A couple of tastings: COPA (always happy), an old Orval clone ( not as astringent as it was, getting much better), and a Coopers Vintage 22. Now that one’s a blinder! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Saison Session Ale Added 100g Galaxy for a dry hop when I cold conditioned the beer. It's amazing. Very very fruity with some good solide bitterness 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 23 hours ago, Malter White said: Considering this is in a glass I've been drinking from all day and it's bottled beer the clarity and head are quite good. That's where the good ends. This is Coopers European lager which now has the "new and improved" ALE yeast included. Tastes like a coriander and dog turd smoothie. Thanks for nothin', Coopers. You're not a happy little boy with Coopers are ya Get into All Grain ol chop you control exactly what beer you want. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, beach_life said: Saison Session Ale Added 100g Galaxy for a dry hop when I cold conditioned the beer. It's amazing. Very very fruity with some good solide bitterness Dry hop during CC? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Aussiekraut said: Dry hop during CC? Yes, threw the 100g in then set it for 2c Well hoppy and no grass from the galaxy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 This beer is really delicious. The Saaz hops has it singing nicely. I'll definitely do this again. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pale Man said: This beer is really delicious. What is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhaus Fritz Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Still not a fully real a/b test as I had them some hours apart, but the closest I came so far. Coopers Vintage Ale ‘22. Both bottles around 6 month old and both stored in the same spot. Both beers are highly enjoyable. My brew is much darker and a bit rougher around the edges. The original is sooo smooth and the mouthfeel so much creamier and fuller. Have two more originals and four homebrews left. I will try to keep them for another month. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, beach_life said: What is it? Weyerman Pilsner. A touch of Weyerman Wheat and a Saaz hop schedule. Lallemand IPA yeast. I reckon this would be even better lagered or soured? It's really zingy and crispy with a good maltiness. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: Still not a fully real a/b test as I had them some hours apart, but the closest I came so far. Coopers Vintage Ale ‘22. Both bottles around 6 month old and both stored in the same spot. Both beers are highly enjoyable. My brew is much darker and a bit rougher around the edges. The original is sooo smooth and the mouthfeel so much creamier and fuller. Have two more originals and four homebrews left. I will try to keep them for another month. I did a couple of the Vintages years ago and found the same. Mine were rough around the edges. I'd love a recipe for an all grain version of a Coopers Vintage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, beach_life said: Yes, threw the 100g in then set it for 2c Well hoppy and no grass from the galaxy Youre setting the precedence for home brewing Beachy. Love it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Charlie Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, beach_life said: Saison Session Ale Added 100g Galaxy for a dry hop when I cold conditioned the beer. It's amazing. Very very fruity with some good solide bitterness that frosted glass must have been delivered from heaven 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cheap Charlie said: that frosted glass must have been delivered from heaven I was thinking the same. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Pale Man said: You're not a happy little boy with Coopers are ya Only in relation to this change. The very simple Green Neck Lager recipe was one of my favourites but now it's Green Gills Ale. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 14 hours ago, beach_life said: Saison Session Ale Added 100g Galaxy for a dry hop when I cold conditioned the beer. It's amazing. Very very fruity with some good solide bitterness Looks cold where you are Beachy. I do all my dry hops these days at ramp down to 2 degrees CC, Throw it in when its close to or bang on 2. I had a couple of shockers earlier with hop burn or whatever (with larger quantity of hops) - adding the hops in at a few degrees off FG. Changed to this colder method and well pleased with the results....maybe not for everyone but works for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone boy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 6:07 PM, Aussiekraut said: Dry hop during CC? Try it AK, it’s a winner. Plenty of research has been done on this, great advantages. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Tone boy said: Try it AK, it’s a winner. Plenty of research has been done on this, great advantages. Yes Toner @Tone boy, that's true and it's suggested that most of the flavoursome aromatic goodness that we home brewers are after is imparted in the first 12 hours or so. I know this now thanks to your research of the research. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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