Pickles Jones Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Yes, You can. I used it as a soaker/sanitiser, but prefer the "Clean Boost" as it doesn't have the lingering chlorine smell. And spraying Bleach around from a spray bottle didn't fit well with me. The other non rinse Sanitiser I was thinking about is Stellar San about $10 for 500mls. A lot of the Forum Crew use this as an alternative to Star San. Both Star San and Stellar San are also in a concentrated form which you add to water Edited September 6, 2020 by Pickles Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, Pickles Jones said: Yes, You can. I used it as a soaker/sanitiser, but prefer the "Clean Boost" as it doesn't have the lingering chlorine smell. And spraying Bleach around from a spray bottle didn't fit well with me. The other non rinse Sanitiser I was thinking about is Stellar San about $10 for 500mls. A lot of the Forum Crew use this as an alternative to Star San. Both Star San and Stellar San are also in a concentrated form which you add to water Fantastic, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Mickep said: What's the preference among the group here for what to use for sanitizing the kit? TIA Many on here use no-rinse sanitisers. StarSan is one as is StellaSan. You make up a solution with 1-2ml of the liquid in a litre of water. It can be reused. Lots of us also fill a spray bottle with the diluted solution to coat the inside of fermenters and other large surfaces. Screenshots of some details are shown below. You can get "No Name" versions that are Phosphoric Acid based. I used a version of this for ages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Many on here use no-rinse sanitisers. StarSan is one as is StellaSan. You make up a solution with 1-2ml of the liquid in a litre of water. It can be reused. Lots of us also fill a spray bottle with the diluted solution to coat the inside of fermenters and other large surfaces. Screenshots of some details are shown below. You can get "No Name" versions that are Phosphoric Acid based. I used a version of this for ages. Thanks Shamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Hi, I think I've ballsed up my first Coopers brew. Rookie mistake and I'm not quite sure whether it's a disaster or not. Recipe: Tin 1.7kg Coopers Lager 1KG Brew enhancer 3 500grams LDME Yeast: 34/70 Saflager. Only problem is I have pitched both the saflager yeast and the kit lager yeast into the fermenter. Is that going to make the brew undrinkable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Jones Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 No, brew away! There is enough "sugars" there to share between the 2 yeasts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Pickles Jones said: No, brew away! There is enough "sugars" there to share between the 2 yeasts. Thanks Pickles, made my day - cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Sorry to keep asking questions here. Can anyone give me a few tips on how to avoid the dried malt clumping. I made a complete mess of it in my first brew after watching vids on the net. 1kg of dme and it clumped like there was no tomorrow, took ages for me to gid rid of the mess. Any tips? I'd put the DME into the fermenter first and then added water (Hot) Was that the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Jones Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) Don't worry about the clumping it doesn't matter, the yeast will still do its job. Edited September 8, 2020 by Pickles Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pickles Jones said: Don't worry about the clumping it doesn't matter, the yeast will still do its job. Okay thanks Pickles, is there a way to minimise it or just don't worry about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Jones Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Don't worry about it. After you have put in the FV just give it a good mix then leave it clumps an all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mickep said: Okay thanks Pickles, is there a way to minimise it or just don't worry about it at all. This is what I do in the current Coopers fermenter that is pretty heat resistant. I drop 0.5 - 1.0 kg of LDM into the fermenter. Pour in a kettle full (1.5 litres) of boiling water. Place the fermenter lid on. Pick up the fermenter and swirl around the contents for a minute. Gently for the first few seconds, until the dust is envelopped by the liquid. Vigorously enough for a good swirl, but not so much that it splashes around. This does much better than stirring only. I find this gets rid of most lumps. Give the rest a bit of a stir. By the time I have added the can contents and stirred it, added any other ingredients and stirred them, added the top up water and stirring as I go, the lumps have almost always dissolved by then. Edited September 8, 2020 by Shamus O'Sean 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 10:07 AM, Pickles Jones said: I can't see a problem with using dishwashing liquid try to get a pure detergent one, not scented. I used to use detergent but now I just wash everything using plain water to clean then hose the FV out. I use Star San as the final 'rinse' just before starting a brew and on the bottles the day before bottling. This is the last thing I do to the bottles before bottling. Keep some Star San in a spray bottle so you can use it when necessary. Clean Boost (Sodium Percarbonate 320g/KG) is very good for soaking bottles and bits and pieces. It's unscented and affordable at $3.50 for a KG and available at Woolworths. These are the things I use. As Shamus said you must rinse well. Hey Pickles what's the ratio per litre for this product when using it for home brew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Jones Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Mickep said: Hey Pickles what's the ratio per litre for this product when using it for home brew? Mickep, I use a level cap full in about 25 litres of water and put the bottles and/or other stuff in. I got a couple of those cheap plastic tubs from K Mart about $5 each. Sorry I can't give you the amount to use per litre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pickles Jones said: Sorry I can't give you the amount to use per litre. But you just did: 1 hour ago, Pickles Jones said: I use a level cap full in about 25 litres of water So you use 1/25th of a capful per litre Edited October 7, 2020 by pilotsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 @Mickep & @pilotsh, I use a level teaspoon per litre (roughly). So a teaspoon into a 750ml bottle for cleaning/soaking purposes. 24 teaspoons or 8 tablespoons into 24-30 litres of water in a fermenter. Soak overnight in both cases. Really hard to measure 1/25th of a cap full. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Pickles Jones said: Mickep, I use a level cap full in about 25 litres of water and put the bottles and/or other stuff in. I got a couple of those cheap plastic tubs from K Mart about $5 each. Sorry I can't give you the amount to use per litre. Thanks PJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: @Mickep & @pilotsh, I use a level teaspoon per litre (roughly). So a teaspoon into a 750ml bottle for cleaning/soaking purposes. 24 teaspoons or 8 tablespoons into 24-30 litres of water in a fermenter. Soak overnight in both cases. Really hard to measure 1/25th of a cap full. Cheers Shamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, pilotsh said: But you just did: So you use 1/25th of a capful per litre Thanks Pilotosh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) My 100% Sodium Pecarbonate says 7g per litre, so I just zero the scales and pour in about 140g into the 23Lt FV and stir. (I under dose slightly as I also use boiling water and stellarsan as well in the whole clean/sanitise process). So if that clean boost one is 320g/Kg, then it is about 1/3rd strength, so maybe 21g/Litre? Edited October 8, 2020 by pilotsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 21 hours ago, pilotsh said: My 100% Sodium Pecarbonate says 7g per litre, so I just zero the scales and pour in about 140g into the 23Lt FV and stir. (I under dose slightly as I also use boiling water and stellarsan as well in the whole clean/sanitise process). So if that clean boost one is 320g/Kg, then it is about 1/3rd strength, so maybe 21g/Litre? Are you sure it is supposed to be 7g/l? I'm pretty sure my 100% SP says something like 30g/9-10l. I never use more than that. I already go through a 5kg bag in next to no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Aussiekraut said: Are you sure it is supposed to be 7g/l? I'm pretty sure my 100% SP says something like 30g/9-10l. I never use more than that. I already go through a 5kg bag in next to no time. Can you please post a photo? Here is my 100% SP bottle, and Kegland’s multi alternative (it also gets the oils, which pure SP does not): So I thought 5-7g per litre was about right, but yours has a different dosage! Back to square one! Anyone else out there have any dosage instructions!? Edited October 8, 2020 by pilotsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, pilotsh said: Can you please post a photo? Here is my 100% SP bottle, and Kegland’s multi alternative (it also gets the oils, which pure SP does not): So I thought 5-7g per litre was about right, but yours has a different dosage! Back to square one! Anyone else out there have any dosage instructions!? This is the stuff I buy from the HBS. make the picture bigger and you can read the label. Only for beer line cleaning do they recommend using more. https://hoppydaysbrewingsupplies.com.au/product/sodium-percarbonate-4-kg-bag/ So essentially 3g/l for normal cleaning duties. I add about 90g to my FVs and fill them up to the brim, then let them sit for 24 hours. This strips away the caked in krausen ring and all. Pretty good stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtotem1 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 hello everyone im pretty new to brewing coopers mixes and i had good success with my coopers larger but i find it a little cloudy. I went online and look at some ideas ,this last batch of coopers larger i fermented it with brew enhancer#2 let it ferment for 5days until i got a hydro reading of 1010 then instead of bottling i transfered it to another carboy. is this called Racking? I aslo read that this will clear beer for me. I want to know if i like the beer set in the racking carboy will i still be able to carbinate with the coopers surgar drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, rtotem1 said: hello everyone im pretty new to brewing coopers mixes and i had good success with my coopers larger but i find it a little cloudy. I went online and look at some ideas ,this last batch of coopers larger i fermented it with brew enhancer#2 let it ferment for 5days until i got a hydro reading of 1010 then instead of bottling i transfered it to another carboy. is this called Racking? I aslo read that this will clear beer for me. I want to know if i like the beer set in the racking carboy will i still be able to carbinate with the coopers surgar drop? Hi @rtotem1 Welcome to the forum. Attached Instructions, you may find this useful. There are many others available. Cheers. how-to-videos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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