Rowbrew Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah ive actually wondered about the sparkling ale kit too, but they don't stock it at my local Woolies. Cheers Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerlust said: I feel the pure extract beers tend to stay "green" for a little longer. That 6-8 week bottled mark & beyond always seems to be a nice point to be drinking them from my experiences, so PB2's comments on ageing this beer a little longer in a home-brewed scenario certainly have merit along with the fact it's a higher ABV beer. Just my 2 cents. Lusty. From memory he was talking about the commercial bottles and he was saying something like Sparkling ale really starts to shine at the 12 month mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rowbrew said: Alright, so have any of you all grainers wondered what a kit and kilo beer would be like if you did one with the knowledge you have now? Well thats what im planning next. I picked up a Coopers Draught kit and a box of BE3 to see if i can make a decent quaffer for summer. The kit seems pretty fresh too, its best before date is 17-5-20. Ill post back here when i get around to brewing it up Cheers! I do one for the old man about every 3 months. Same recipe every time. Can of pale ale and can of light malt extract with 2L CCA starter. Comes out the ok but you still know its a kit by the taste. He likes it though and is a creature of habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I also think I’m turning into one of those all grain snobs to be honest. However it’s more the fact that I like to say that I’ve done all of that beer. Recipe design, ferment and bottle. No disrespect to extract Brewer’s at all. Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Captain1525230099 said: From memory he was talking about the commercial bottles and he was saying something like Sparkling ale really starts to shine at the 12 month mark In higher ABV beers malt complexities & hopping begin to meld better the longer they're aged, but given the Sparkling Ale isn't a particularly complex hop & malt bill I'm a little befuddled about what would surface as being improved at that point as opposed to half that timeframe in ageing. PB2 has far more experience than I do on this front so I'll take his word for that, but admit I do find it just a little perplexing. I suppose until you've sampled the beers at those ages it's hard to really have a view at all. So I'll shut up now. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerlust said: In higher ABV beers malt complexities & hopping begin to meld better the longer they're aged, but given the Sparkling Ale isn't a particularly complex hop & malt bill I'm a little befuddled about what would surface as being improved at that point as opposed to half that timeframe in ageing. PB2 has far more experience than I do on this front so I'll take his word for that, but admit I do find it just a little perplexing. I suppose until you've sampled the beers at those ages it's hard to really have a view at all. So I'll shut up now. Cheers, Lusty. Yep completely agree with that lusty. I think I’d like to age that beer to find out WTF he is talking about TBH. However you really can’t shy away from what he’s saying as we all know he’s a gun! Anyway, I’ll shut up too. Long weekend over here, I’m going to have another beer. Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, The Captain1525230099 said: ...Long weekend over here, I’m going to have another beer. Captain Late start tomorrow,... I'll join you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Beerlust said: Late start tomorrow,... I'll join you. NICE!!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Rowbrew said: Alright, so have any of you all grainers wondered what a kit and kilo beer would be like if you did one with the knowledge you have now? Well thats what im planning next. I picked up a Coopers Draught kit and a box of BE3 to see if i can make a decent quaffer for summer. The kit seems pretty fresh too, its best before date is 17-5-20. Ill post back here when i get around to brewing it up Cheers! I've actually done it, but out of necessity more than anything else. A few years ago I made an English bitter kit with 1kg dry malt because I had no time for an AG brew. It was nice, but not as nice as my AG beers and not as nice as I remembered it from my kit days either. Maybe it was just psychological/confirmation bias; knowing it was a kit beer perhaps skewed my perception. Having said that, someone brought some home brew to a party about a year later and I immediately picked up that it was a kit beer without being told before tasting it. So who knows. I think it's fair to say that the brew would turn out better with the knowledge than it might have as a newbie though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 1:13 PM, Beerlust said: I have John & it is a very nice beer, but Dale's Pale Ale just tops it I reckon. I actually did a side by side of these two beers along with some others back in October last year. (Linky) Have you tried Dale's Pale Ale? Cheers, Lusty. Nice work Lusty! No I haven't tried Dale's... No point if they're not fresh, and I can't seem to find anything under 4 months old. Do you stock them at work, and if so, what dates do yours have on them? Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 hours ago, porschemad911 said: Nice work Lusty! No I haven't tried Dale's... No point if they're not fresh, and I can't seem to find anything under 4 months old. Do you stock them at work, and if so, what dates do yours have on them? AFAIK, imported beers arrive in shipping containers, so the northern hemisphere beers take quite sometime to reach our shores. 3-4 month old stock would be fairly typical by the time it hits our shelves. Being that NZ is a lot closer their stuff is obviously not as old by the time we see it here. Part of the reason some of the prominent beer brands have their beers brewed under license by local breweries is to avoid this scenario & have their beers hit the shelves fresher. The Dale's Pale Ale I had would have been at least 3-4 months old too I would think (I didn't check). Don't worry about it though John, this beer is not heavily dry hopped & retains the flavour better as most of the hopping for the beer is either in the boil or steeped. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I put on my kit beer earlier tonight Coopers Draught BE3 US05 slurry pitched at 18C, temp controller set to 16C 21 litres OG 1.043 IBU 27ish Took less than 30 mins, Happy days. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 @Rowbrew 16c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 @The Captain1525230099Yeah 16C, why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just askin, it’s not really a “normal” temp mate. thought you might have your 6 and your 9 mixed up. Hooe it goes well for ya bud. Going to do some real simple brews next break to get the stocks up. With the wife now burying her mouth into them it’s taking its toll ya ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yeah fair enough mate. I thought fermenting it a little cooler might make for a very clean crisp fisnish in the beer. Anyway we'll see how it goes. Cheers and Happy brewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 That means you must be making some good beers! Well done Cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Norris! said: That means you must be making some good beers! Well done Cap! Getting there Norris. She’s selective. I’ve told her my latest pacific ale was no good ha h ha she hasn’t touched it ha ha ha it is delicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, The Captain1525230099 said: it is delicious Hahahha! I laughed so hard my wife was like what?! I am saving this trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Norris! said: Hahahha! I laughed so hard my wife was like what?! I am saving this trick. I know I shouldn’t I’ll let her know when there’s a few left. She has very different tastes to me. She probably won’t like it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Captain1525230099 said: She probably won’t like it anyway Keep telling yourself that mate! Haha. Sorry Cap, I have to nominate your post for funniest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, Rowbrew said: Yeah fair enough mate. I thought fermenting it a little cooler might make for a very clean crisp fisnish in the beer. Anyway we'll see how it goes. Cheers and Happy brewing Apparently not from what I've read, it's cleaner at 18. I don't know why, perhaps the yeast are a bit stressed trying to ferment that cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Apparently not from what I've read, it's cleaner at 18. I don't know why, perhaps the yeast are a bit stressed trying to ferment that cool. I’ve read the same but hey, do what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yeah i have read that too, but i have also read the opposite, so i guess ill find out when its in the glass. I just checked on the brew and it has got a small krausen forming already. Should be rockin in a few more hours i imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yeah only one way to find out whether it will work for you or not. I'll continue at 18, it's clean enough for me. That Vic Secret pale ale is drinking really well, shame there's only about half a keg of it left now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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