Can you use normal sugar to brew your coopers beer when putting it in a keg instead on inchancer

[Boss]

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[Classic Brewing Co]

9 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

I think I have got this right; you are asking can I brew with sugar instead of brew enhancer, I say no as it will taste awful & have no body, I think you mean putting it in the fermenter.

keg instead on inchancer

If you supply more detail, it would be easier to understand, Brew Enhancers are used in conjunction with the extracts & malts to complete a recipe.

Please list your recipe, the type of brew, ingredients used & the equipment you are using etc.

 

[Boss]

Yer I was just asking if I could use normal sugar so you answered my question right it would taste awful cheers 

[Cheap Charlie]

I have had better results with enhancer or just plain dry malt extract instead of sugar. The sugar beer was pretty ordinary TBH.

[Tricky Micky]

For extract brewing and depending on style probably go with either Liquid malt extract or Liquid Wheat malt extract as a first option, second, try Dry malt extract, next there's Coopers BE range (1, 2, and 3) and lastly and only if it suits the style (like a mega swill clone) go the white sugar.

I've found for a 23 liter volume wort in the FV  that anything above 300-400 grams of white sugar thins the body of the beer substantially and can even impart a perceived cider taste to it. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Mickep

[Oldbloke]

All above are pretty right.

I used sugar for a few years. ( tight arse lol) Beer was drinkable  but I never recommend it now. Depends what you like I guess.

But IMO BE3 is a good start or just malt, of any type really. Depends what you making.

LDME is popular. I use it for 80% of my brews at the moment, 500grams, mainly because I got a great deal a few months ago & grabbed 10kg. The darker versions are great in ales and stouts.

[Malter White]

I'm about to find out but not with Coopers.
On the journey of further experimentation I've just put down a tin of Woolies "Larger" with 800g of white sugar + 400g dextrose. Added 15g of hot steeped PoR hops because these WW tins are as bland as a cucumber sandwich.
I'm not expecting award winning beer. My goal is to make a drinkable beer. If successful it'll equate to a slab (24 x 375ml) for $5.80. You could say $6 if I bottle it but I haven't decided if I'll bottle or keg it yet.

[Pale Man]

28 minutes ago, Malter White said:

I'm about to find out but not with Coopers.
On the journey of further experimentation I've just put down a tin of Woolies "Larger" with 800g of white sugar + 400g dextrose. Added 15g of hot steeped PoR hops because these WW tins are as bland as a cucumber sandwich.
I'm not expecting award winning beer. My goal is to make a drinkable beer. If successful it'll equate to a slab (24 x 375ml) for $5.80. You could say $6 if I bottle it but I haven't decided if I'll bottle or keg it yet.

Doesn't hurt to try ol sausage. If you make something " You " like. Then you've won the battle. If not, then tweak it a tiny bit until you do like it.

I often think about putting down an el cheapo kit with kilo of sugar and kegging it. After all these days with temp control and sanitary practices so much better. It cant be as bad as the old days.

Can It???

[Malter White]

3 minutes ago, Pale Man said:

Doesn't hurt to try ol sausage. If you make something " You " like. Then you've won the battle. If not, then tweak it a tiny bit until you do like it.

I often think about putting down an el cheapo kit with kilo of sugar and kegging it. After all these days with temp control and sanitary practices so much better. It cant be as bad as the old days.

Can It???

Exactly right, Paley. I've read so much about, "don't do this or don't do that",  but taste is subjective and I need to find out for myself. I might just make a beer I like. Who knows until they try? If it doesn't turn out too well, I've SPLURGED a total of about $15 in the name of science. I spent that much on one beer in Singapore that tasted like an unwiped ar$e.

[Pale Man]

9 minutes ago, Malter White said:

I spent that much on one beer in Singapore that tasted like an unwiped ar$e.

I'll take your word for it on that. Ive done lots of things in my life. But never tasted an unwiped ar$e 

[Malter White]

13 minutes ago, Pale Man said:

But never tasted an unwiped ar$e 

It's a bit like eggplant.  

[Kegory]

1 hour ago, Malter White said:

I'm about to find out but not with Coopers.
On the journey of further experimentation I've just put down a tin of Woolies "Larger" with 800g of white sugar + 400g dextrose. Added 15g of hot steeped PoR hops because these WW tins are as bland as a cucumber sandwich.
I'm not expecting award winning beer. My goal is to make a drinkable beer. If successful it'll equate to a slab (24 x 375ml) for $5.80. You could say $6 if I bottle it but I haven't decided if I'll bottle or keg it yet.

Those Woolies brand cans look like they come from Coopers, TBH.  I doubt that Woolies set up their own LME canning facility, much more likely they are produced by Coopers under contract with a new label and cap slapped on.

[Pale Man]

2 minutes ago, Kegory said:

Those Woolies brand cans look like they come from Coopers, TBH.  I doubt that Woolies set up their own LME canning facility, much more likely they are produced by Coopers under contract with a new label and cap slapped on.

I've heard the same for a lot of years, but with one other home brew producer thrown in.

[Malter White]

2 minutes ago, Kegory said:

Those Woolies brand cans look like they come from Coopers, TBH.  I doubt that Woolies set up their own LME canning facility, much more likely they are produced by Coopers under contract with a new label and cap slapped on.

As with just about all "home brand" products, they're made by "brand" manufacturers. Some say it could be Morgan's. I don't know.

[Stickers]

2 hours ago, Malter White said:

I'm about to find out but not with Coopers.
On the journey of further experimentation I've just put down a tin of Woolies "Larger" with 800g of white sugar + 400g dextrose. Added 15g of hot steeped PoR hops because these WW tins are as bland as a cucumber sandwich.
I'm not expecting award winning beer. My goal is to make a drinkable beer. If successful it'll equate to a slab (24 x 375ml) for $5.80. You could say $6 if I bottle it but I haven't decided if I'll bottle or keg it yet.

if you discover an easy way of taking the white caps off the woolies can, please let me know. every single time i've tried i've punctured the paltry 5g yeast sachet whilst doing so.

[Malter White]

3 minutes ago, Stickers said:

if you discover an easy way of taking the white caps off the woolies can, please let me know. every single time i've tried i've punctured the paltry 5g yeast sachet whilst doing so.

I don't know any easy way. I just use what brute strength I have left in my almost arthritic hands. Can't say I've ever damaged the yeast packets though.

[DavidM]

I make one a week for the Wife and I've never had a problem withe the white cap.

Large flat screw driver and push up a bit and lever up and off!

[Classic Brewing Co]

1 hour ago, Malter White said:

As with just about all "home brand" products, they're made by "brand" manufacturers. Some say it could be Morgan's. I don't know.

A commercial Brewer told me it was Morgan's.

[Oldbloke]

17 hours ago, Malter White said:

Exactly right, Paley. I've read so much about, "don't do this or don't do that",  but taste is subjective and I need to find out for myself. I might just make a beer I like. Who knows until they try? If it doesn't turn out too well, I've SPLURGED a total of about $15 in the name of science. I spent that much on one beer in Singapore that tasted like an unwiped ar$e.

Why not. Did a couple about 15 years ago. If I recall correctly like a very light lager.  Some would like it.

 

Why don't you just make it up to say, ,,, 18 litres. That should help it. That's 24 long necks.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Oldbloke

[Malter White]

34 minutes ago, Oldbloke said:

 

 

Why don't you just make it up to say, ,,, 18 litres. That should help it. That's 24 long necks.

Too late. Already done 23.

[Otto Von Blotto]

Are you doing it properly by fermenting it at 35 degrees as well?

[Malter White]

2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

Are you doing it properly by fermenting it at 35 degrees as well?

Of course! I did mention how bland those tins are.

[Pale Man]

20 hours ago, Classic Brewing Co said:

A commercial Brewer told me it was Morgan's.

Morgans cans make a good brew ( sorry Coopers and @iBooz2  )   My Dad used to brew and keg with them. The Blue Mountain Lager is lovely drop.

[Classic Brewing Co]

6 minutes ago, Pale Man said:

Morgans cans make a good brew ( sorry Coopers and @iBooz2  )   My Dad used to brew and keg with them. The Blue Mountain Lager is lovely drop.

I have had a few brews of theirs over the years, pretty much on par with most of the others.

[Malter White]

On 3/22/2023 at 4:15 PM, Malter White said:

I'm about to find out but not with Coopers.
On the journey of further experimentation I've just put down a tin of Woolies "Larger" with 800g of white sugar + 400g dextrose. Added 15g of hot steeped PoR hops because these WW tins are as bland as a cucumber sandwich.
I'm not expecting award winning beer. My goal is to make a drinkable beer. If successful it'll equate to a slab (24 x 375ml) for $5.80. You could say $6 if I bottle it but I haven't decided if I'll bottle or keg it yet.

I'm going to keg this today. Tasted a flat sample of it this morning and so far so good. Tasted like beer. Fancy that.