Tricky Micky Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, kmar92 said: Does not work for me Mick, with the 58l kegmenter and the strongest magnets I could find. Tried these @kmar92? https://aussiemagnets.com.au/collections/rare-earth-neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, kmar92 said: What is the height measurement from the bottom of the lid to the top of the hop bong @Red devil 44? I would like to know if I can fit both the 58l kegmenter and the hop bong in my FV. @kmar92, I don’t have a hop bong on currently but will measure up & report back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 minutes ago, Red devil 44 said: @kmar92, I don’t have a hop bong on currently but will measure up & report back. Let’s call it 830mm bottom to top @kmar92 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 43 minutes ago, Tricky Micky said: Tried these @kmar92? https://aussiemagnets.com.au/collections/rare-earth-neo No I haven't @Tricky Micky, I have used teflon coated sous vide magnets as they are food safe. They feel very strong if you try to separate them but through the wall of the kegmenter they do not work. I guess that it is possible that the neodymium magnets could work (I just read that 304 SS will pass a magnetic flux) but when you feel the loss of magnetic flux with the magnets that I have tried though the kegmenter I am doubtfull. I should try out the neodymium magnets as they are fairly inexpensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 11 minutes ago, Red devil 44 said: Let’s call it 830mm bottom to top @kmar92 Perhaps that is the overall height of the All Rounder plus the hop bong? My 58l kegmenter is only 630mm high so the hop bong would be higher by itself, than the kegmenter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 5 minutes ago, kmar92 said: No I haven't @Tricky Micky, I have used teflon coated sous vide magnets as they are food safe. They feel very strong if you try to separate them but through the wall of the kegmenter they do not work. I guess that it is possible that the neodymium magnets could work (I just read that 304 SS will pass a magnetic flux) but when you feel the loss of magnetic flux with the magnets that I have tried though the kegmenter I am doubtfull. I should try out the neodymium magnets as they are fairly inexpensive. It really depends on what grade of SS 304 you are getting with those, and where it’s made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, kmar92 said: Perhaps that is the overall height of the All Rounder plus the hop bong? My 58l kegmenter is only 630mm high so the hop bong would be higher by itself, than the kegmenter. All Rounder plus Hop Bong equates to 830mm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 10 minutes ago, Red devil 44 said: All Rounder plus Hop Bong equates to 830mm. Thanks @Red devil 44, that would probably fit in my ferment fridge then. I am guessing a little and estimating that my 58L kegmenter with hop bong would be about 910mm high and my ferment fridge will fit about 1200mm of height. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Brewing Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 31 minutes ago, Red devil 44 said: It really depends on what grade of SS 304 you are getting with those, and where it’s made Without wanting to start a massive debate, after spending about 20 years as a sheetmetal worker who specialised in manufacture of food grade equipment, please take it from me 304 Stainless Steel is classified as Austenitic (meaning its chemical make up prevents this type of steel from being hardened by heat treatment and it is essentially non-magnetic). Generally, stainless steel grades that start with a 4 in their grade (eg; 410, 420 and 440) are known as martensitic stainless steels. This type of stainless steel is magnetic primarily because it contains large quantities of ferrite in its chemical composition, which is a compound of iron and other elements. The grades used for commercial tableware and fastener industries (Eg; 18/8 and 18/10) are also known to be magnetic. So simply, if an item is truly made from the grade 304 stainless steel, it should not be magnetic. (C = Carbon, Si = Silicon, Mn = Manganese, P = Phosphorus, Cr = Chromium, and Ni = Nickle) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, Triple B Brewing said: Without wanting to start a massive debate, after spending about 20 years as a sheetmetal worker who specialised in manufacture of food grade equipment, please take it from me 304 Stainless Steel is classified as Austenitic (meaning its chemical make up prevents this type of steel from being hardened by heat treatment and it is essentially non-magnetic). Generally, stainless steel grades that start with a 4 in their grade (eg; 410, 420 and 440) are known as martensitic stainless steels. This type of stainless steel is magnetic primarily because it contains large quantities of ferrite in its chemical composition, which is a compound of iron and other elements. The grades used for commercial tableware and fastener industries (Eg; 18/8 and 18/10) are also known to be magnetic. So simply, if an item is truly made from the grade 304 stainless steel, it should not be magnetic. (C = Carbon, Si = Silicon, Mn = Manganese, P = Phosphorus, Cr = Chromium, and Ni = Nickle) Great analysis @Triple B Brewing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Brewing Posted Monday at 04:45 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:45 AM Cleaned the allrounder up after transferring my first brew in it and put my chocolate oatmeal stout in with Nottingham yeast. The spunding valve is closed I'll let it build up under its own steam to 11 or 12psi then I'll close it off to 10psi and ferment it at 19.5c 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted Monday at 10:19 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:19 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, Back Brewing said: The spunding valve is closed I'll let it build up under its own steam to 11 or 12psi Keep a close eye on it. The pressure can build up awfully quick. And when I say awfully, that describes what it would look like if the FV ruptured. I filled 6 kegs to 15 psi from the off gassing coming from a fermentation on its second day. Imagine 90+ psi in one of those PET fermenters. Edited Monday at 10:19 AM by Shamus O'Sean 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBillett09 Posted Monday at 11:17 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:17 AM @Shamus O'Sean wow that put it in some perspective just how much co2 comes off and how much pressure can be made! Can’t muck around with that! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Brewing Posted Tuesday at 11:37 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:37 AM At 24 hours the krausen is a kickin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liambeer Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago On 10/14/2024 at 8:19 PM, Shamus O'Sean said: Keep a close eye on it. The pressure can build up awfully quick. And when I say awfully, that describes what it would look like if the FV ruptured. I filled 6 kegs to 15 psi from the off gassing coming from a fermentation on its second day. Imagine 90+ psi in one of those PET fermenters. Not sure pressure works in multiples like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Liambeer said: Not sure pressure works in multiples like that Yes, my guess is you are right about that. But getting 6 kegs to 15 psi each was over about 8 hours of fermentation. Imagine the pressure from 4 - 5 days. And all contained in one FV. I have read where folks have set the gauge too high. They check the spunding valve 18 or so hours after pitching and note, oh the FV is just over 15psi. Only to realise the needle was only sitting just over 15psi because there is a pin in the gauge preventing the needle from lapping itself. Who knows how much pressure they actually had in their FV by that point, but they quickly adjusted it back down below 15psi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Yes, my guess is you are right about that. But getting 6 kegs to 15 psi each was over about 8 hours of fermentation. Imagine the pressure from 4 - 5 days. And all contained in one FV. I have read where folks have set the gauge too high. They check the spunding valve 18 or so hours after pitching and note, oh the FV is just over 15psi. Only to realise the needle was only sitting just over 15psi because there is a pin in the gauge preventing the needle from lapping itself. Who knows how much pressure they actually had in their FV by that point, but they quickly adjusted it back down below 15psi. I was lucky that the spunding valve simply gave in and couldn't hold the pressure. Had it held more, I would know what happens if the pressure gets too high for the FV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back Brewing Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Aussiekraut said: I was lucky that the spunding valve simply gave in and couldn't hold the pressure. Had it held more, I would know what happens if the pressure gets too high for the FV Surely the PRV would have done its job I thought that is why you have the 2 release mechanisms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now