jennyss Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I saw a video on the Kegland brewing site about fresh wort kits. I had not heard of this before - what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I use them all the time now just stocked up today. You won't regret it for the price the extra flavour is amazing. The kegland lager is a bit bland but a nice easy drinker for a hot day. Depending on you're location try some from Grain and Grape or All In Brewing Company. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennyss Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I'm wondering what is the advantage of these fresh wort kits over tins of extract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 @jennyss FWK's are a great way to sample what an all grain batch of beer is like. They are super convenient to brew as someone else does all the time consuming work and all you have to do is put them in a fermenter and add yeast and then dry hop etc. Very convenient and they can produce great beers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, jennyss said: I'm wondering what is the advantage of these fresh wort kits over tins of extract? You will need to buy yeast to suit the beer but all I can say is brew one and find out. It's an all grain fresh beer ready to add water and yeast. Coopers kits are great and compact but you can't put that freshness into a small tin. If you have access to one brew it and find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, jennyss said: I'm wondering what is the advantage of these fresh wort kits over tins of extract? @jennyss I have never actually made one but tasted a few, as the guys have said, it will take you beer to the next level & then there will be no turning back, The Rabbit Hole beckons. Go for it Girl. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 @jennyss Just my thoughts only . this will not teach you how to make A.G beer as the main process has been done for you and all you do is add a bit of water and add the wort to fermenter and pitch your yeast of choice and add dry hops if required. what you will find is a difference between extract and A.G tastes the good thing with FWK'S is you still can make it your own and you can use whatever yeast you want , not just the recommended yeast and the same with your dry hops to make it your own instead of the manufacturers i currently have 2 fwks in the keg at the moment 1 being a black ipa and the other a Neipa which have been carbing up for the past week. now also these fwks there is a few ways to ferment these and they will have different abv and O.G depending on what you did buy one and ferment one and see how you go , might be a good time to brew one that both you and hubby can enjoy you wont be sorry grain and grape make good fwks as so do all-inn brewing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I see the advantage in not having to do much work and the chance to try an all grain brew, great idea. But the Cost. For me that is a deal breaker, over double what My brews cost to make, even thou not as good. I'll stick to Kit and Kilo If I need to try All Grain brews... I'll drop in on @Classic Brewing Co next time he has a new batch! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DavidM said: I see the advantage in not having to do much work and the chance to try an all grain brew, great idea. But the Cost. For me that is a deal breaker, over double what My brews cost to make, even thou not as good. I'll stick to Kit and Kilo If I need to try All Grain brews... I'll drop in on @Classic Brewing Co next time he has a new batch! Drop in anytime mate, there will always be something to drink 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, jennyss said: I'm wondering what is the advantage of these fresh wort kits over tins of extract? @jennyss, I do K&K, partial's and FWK's now. I have to say the FWK's are outstanding in the main. And you get to taste the difference between K&K and AG. I love my K&K's but these FWK's are on another level. A really nice beer to have a crack at is the Kegland Fresh3 cubed lager. $31.00 Outstanding value IMO. I've been using the LalBrew Premium Series - BRY-97 - American West Coast Style Ale Yeast x 11g - About $5.70. I've been adding a dry hop at FG of POR - not much just enough to pimp it up a touch.....it is a very very decent beer IMO. So for about $37.00 you get to sample a really decent AG beer - It's actually not much dearer than a goof K&K TBH. Of course the kicker is your location - If ya can't get to Kegland I think the delivery cost may be a show stopper - $25.00??? Edited December 2, 2022 by Mickep 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Mickep said: @jennyss, I do K&K, partial's and FWK's now. I have to say the FWK's are outstanding in the main. And you get to taste the difference between K&K and AG. I love my K&K's but these FWK's are on another level. A really nice beer to have a crack at is the Kegland Fresh3 cubed lager. $31.00 Outstanding value IMO. I've been using the LalBrew Premium Series - BRY-97 - American West Coast Style Ale Yeast x 11g - About $5.70. I've been adding a dry hop at FG of POR - not much just enough to pimp it up a touch.....it is a very very decent beer IMO. So for about $37.00 you get to sample a really decent AG beer - It's actually not much dearer than a goof K&K TBH. Of course the kicker is your location - If ya can't get to Kegland I think the delivery cost may be a show stopper - $25.00??? I agree with Mick, the beer is heaps better than most K & K's, the ones I have tasted anyway, unfortunately the only FWK available in Adelaide are limited to 3-4 locations & as far as I know they all come in those dreaded satchels & they are twice the price of the others.There are a couple of places in Victoria that still supply them in the plastic cubes that I found online but as you say the freight is the killer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Mickep said: @jennyss, I do K&K, partial's and FWK's now. I have to say the FWK's are outstanding in the main. And you get to taste the difference between K&K and AG. I love my K&K's but these FWK's are on another level. A really nice beer to have a crack at is the Kegland Fresh3 cubed lager. $31.00 Outstanding value IMO. I've been using the LalBrew Premium Series - BRY-97 - American West Coast Style Ale Yeast x 11g - About $5.70. I've been adding a dry hop at FG of POR - not much just enough to pimp it up a touch.....it is a very very decent beer IMO. So for about $37.00 you get to sample a really decent AG beer - It's actually not much dearer than a goof K&K TBH. Of course the kicker is your location - If ya can't get to Kegland I think the delivery cost may be a show stopper - $25.00??? I tried that Lager Plain with just Diamond Lager yeast and 5 or 6 liters of water added. Still came out at 5.7% in the keg, still have half left ATM. It was a bit bland tasting for me but no different than a Carlton Draught or something. Like you say value for money, next time I may add a small hop steep myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 7:36 PM, jennyss said: I'm wondering what is the advantage of these fresh wort kits over tins of extract? FWKs are the simplest way to brew beer. The result is normally better than a K&K. I guess the biggest difference is that the FWK is not boiled down into goo but simply brewed "stronger", with the added 5l of water in mind. I've done a few myself and usually get good results. However, you are still brewing somebody else's beer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 10:39 AM, Aussiekraut said: However, you are still brewing somebody else's beer. Too true that AK, there's a lot to be said for brewing AG at home. When I tasted Al's ( @iBooz2) Leigh's lager which he generously gave me 25 liters in a cube to brew at home it made me realise just what you can expect from brewing a beer you've made at home. At least what to aspire to anyway. To my taste buds the LL was insanely good. Edited December 5, 2022 by Mickep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbloke Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I just had a look at what's involved with "all grain" brewing. You blokes can have that on your own. I have better things to do with my time. Must be bloody fussy if you can't find a kit you like these days. Your prefered coopers kit. Add malt extract. Add buggerall time and effort. Yum. Great beer. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Oldbloke said: I just had a look at what's involved with "all grain" brewing. You blokes can have that on your own. I have better things to do with my time. Must be bloody fussy if you can't find a kit you like these days. Your prefered coopers kit. Add malt extract. Add buggerall time and effort. Yum. Great beer. I can assure you it is well worth doing & if you are organised, plan ahead & just get on with it, the rewards are far greater than any 'kit' beer will give you. I have only been involved with AG for most of this year, but I am well over k & k apart from a quick fridge filler now & again. The same with bottling, after kegging, it sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbloke Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Soo, no way i would keg or full grain mash. While your boiling grain I will be out fishing. Bugger carting a keg to a mates place or a few days camping. Everyone, I repeat, everyone who tries my HB says it GREAT. Pro's & con's in everything I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Oldbloke said: Soo, no way i would keg or full grain mash. While your boiling grain I will be out fishing. Bugger carting a keg to a mates place or a few days camping. Everyone, I repeat, everyone who tries my HB says it GREAT. Pro's & con's in everything I guess. Try telling that to the successful AG brewers on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbloke Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mate, it's "horses for courses". My time is worth something. I also have other interests. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Oldbloke said: Soo, no way i would keg or full grain mash. While your boiling grain I will be out fishing. Bugger carting a keg to a mates place or a few days camping. Everyone, I repeat, everyone who tries my HB says it GREAT. Pro's & con's in everything I guess. I guess that it is horses for courses @Oldbloke. I wouldn't criticise anyone for doing KnK's as you can make some pretty good brews and I speak from experience, I even did a couple last week, well partials to be precise and I am sure that they will turn out just fine. So best of luck with your KnK's and the main thing is that you like the beer that you produce. Yes AG brewing does involve time but I like the process and I love the flexibility it gives me to try different things and produce different beers. It does add a whole new dimension to brewing for me. BTW I never boil grains, it would not be a good idea at all. And while you are cleaning and sanitising bottles, then doing a bottling run and then allowing the bottles a few weeks for secondary I have time to do an AG brew, ferment it and keg it - but as I say horses for courses and you are producing nice beers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Agreed @kmar92 it goes without question that AG brews are at the top of the heap, sure there are fine k & k's, I & like many others I brewed them for years but trying to compare the two is really a waste of time. You are right about the prep for k & k/bottling, by the time you finished that you would have mashed in, either in the sparge or on with the boil, everything takes time but I sure as hell know what I would rather be doing & it ain't washing bottles or warming up cans. It & always will be each to their own. Edited December 5, 2022 by Classic Brewing Co 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Of Beddanburg Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 10:39 AM, Aussiekraut said: However, you are still brewing somebody else's beer. Not much different to mixing tins and other bits together just a fresher better tasting option. I will get around to all grain one day. In the meantime the FWK are the best substitute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbloke Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: Agreed @kmar92 it goes without question that AG brews are at the top of the heap, sure there are fine k & k's, I & like many others I brewed them for years but trying to compare the two is really a waste of time. You are right about the prep for k & k/bottling, by the time you finished that you would have mashed in, either in the sparge or on with the boil, everything takes time but I sure as hell know what I would rather be doing & it ain't washing bottles or warming up cans. It & always will be each to their own. What prep. I just run them through the dish washer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Oldbloke said: What prep. I just run them through the dish washer. I would suggest if you don't like or intend to try AG & Kegging, don't worry about it. Hasta la vista. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Firstly, I'd like to say "We are All Different" I'm only just over a Year into Kit's and Bit's and I'm loving it. I have tasted All Grain and can see it's better, I also can see that Keg's would be easier (up to a point). But I'm happy with what I do and the way I serve a beer, out of the bottle. It takes me about an Hour and a Half to.. Steep some grains, Bottle a brew and Put a new Brew in. Some days are longer when I'm not organised but Hell.. I'm retired and have time! Yes, I then have to store that brew for at Least a Month to get the best out of it but that is just being organised. I view this as a Hobby that I do to get Great tasting Beers in between Life and Golf. And thanks for all the Help, by the way. To each their Own.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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