Classic Brewing Co Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: Kind of got an idea, during my time of after surgery I watched quiet a few different videos, I also like your set up with the platform It is very important to get high enough over the top of the unit with a solid footing so that you are able to have complete control over the slow haul upwards of the Malt Pipe & get it firmly locked into place to enable sparging, don't get me wrong, I am no expert, I just found a way to do it. Pulleys etc are not an option for me so I have to find ways to perfect it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: I've done it, just ordered the Brewzilla mate great purchase mate i dont think you will be disappointed mate in the 3.1.1 , i have one myself but i also have the gen 4 35l my advice to you is get the pro screen s and ditch the overflow pip its not really necessary and you will get a bit more room for mashing in and even the top screen is a bit pointless to be honest now the fun begins remember you have to allow for dead space boil off is 3l/hour mash tun dead space is 6.75l trub/chiller loss is 1l fermenter loss is 2l These have to be taken into account to give you your final liquid amount those figures if your using brewfather you put them in your equipment profile working on 3/1 ratio of grain/water and you have a total grain bill of 5kg that equates to 5kgx3 =15litres for your strike water now you need to add your dead space to this which is basically 15l+6.75 = 21.75l so thats what you will fill the kettle to 21.75l if your using brewfather or beersmith as long as you have done your equipment profile they will calculate your total strike water +sparge water for you good luck with your 1st brew in the bz 3.1.1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Yeah I always hot cube, I haven’t bothered using the chiller with the Grainfather as I’ve heard it’s a pain in the a%se to use, and wastes too much water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhaus Fritz Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 iT aRRIVED tODAY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just now, Brauhaus Fritz said: iT aRRIVED tODAY Yippee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Red devil 44 said: Yeah I always hot cube, I haven’t bothered using the chiller with the Grainfather as I’ve heard it’s a pain in the a%se to use, and wastes too much water. Too right it does, my very first AG brew in the BrewZilla was a real eye opener, I could not believe how much water was wasted, apart from just wasting water, I am paying for it as well !! Cubing is the only way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red devil 44 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: Too right it does, my very first AG brew in the BrewZilla was a real eye opener, I could not believe how much water was wasted, apart from just wasting water, I am paying for it as well !! Cubing is the only way to go. Yeah I agree mate. ‘The S40 will get a run tomorrow or Sunday with a 150 Lashes Clone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just now, Red devil 44 said: Yeah I agree mate. ‘The S40 will get a run tomorrow or Sunday with a 150 Lashes Clone Awesome, good beer that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Red devil 44 said: Yeah I always hot cube, I haven’t bothered using the chiller with the Grainfather as I’ve heard it’s a pain in the a%se to use, and wastes too much water. I tried hot cubing a few times. It was very useful in summer time. However, this time of year in Melbourne, using the G30 Grainfather counterflow chiller is pretty efficient. I collect about 40 litres of water in cubes during cooling the wort to pitching temperature. Most of it goes toward cleaning the brewing system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: I tried hot cubing a few times. It was very useful in summer time. However, this time of year in Melbourne, using the G30 Grainfather counterflow chiller is pretty efficient. I collect about 40 litres of water in cubes during cooling the wort to pitching temperature. Most of it goes toward cleaning the brewing system. Although I am dead against water wastage, I tend to think you method has merit & I could possibly be do similar but I seem to have got into a system with cubing. The other thing is the chiller that is supplied with the BrewZilla is not very effective & I don't feel like spending money on a better one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhaus Fritz Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 Found this on Facebook in the Brewzilla & Robobrew Users Group, did any one try this? " just seal the Brewzilla with cling film over the top, remove the jacket and let it cool overnight. You have a built in temperature reader and when at the right temp just use the tap and dump into the fermenter " Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: Found this on Facebook in the Brewzilla & Robobrew Users Group, did any one try this? " just seal the Brewzilla with cling film over the top, remove the jacket and let it cool overnight. You have a built in temperature reader and when at the right temp just use the tap and dump into the fermenter " Any thoughts? there is no reason why it wouldn't work providing the cling film was sanitized. the only thing that would give me the hebe jebes is taking the jacket on and off as the jackets are not easiest to get back on 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: Found this on Facebook in the Brewzilla & Robobrew Users Group, did any one try this? " just seal the Brewzilla with cling film over the top, remove the jacket and let it cool overnight. You have a built in temperature reader and when at the right temp just use the tap and dump into the fermenter " Any thoughts? If John Palmer from How to Brew says it's okay, then it's okay. I have also seen a few Youtubers do it. It cannot be much different to putting the beer into a sanitised cube. In fact, the inside of the kettle should be well sanitised/sterilised by the steam from the wort. Get the lid on soon after flame-out and wrap with glad wrap to seal the joints. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, ozdevil said: is taking the jacket on and off as the jackets are not easiest to get back on I would second that, they are hard to get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: If John Palmer from How to Brew says it's okay, then it's okay. I have also seen a few Youtubers do it. It cannot be much different to putting the beer into a sanitised cube. In fact, the inside of the kettle should be well sanitised/sterilised by the steam from the wort. Get the lid on soon after flame-out and wrap with glad wrap to seal the joints. I have wondered about this myself but I will cube until it is deemed safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Brauhaus Fritz said: Found this on Facebook in the Brewzilla & Robobrew Users Group, did any one try this? " just seal the Brewzilla with cling film over the top, remove the jacket and let it cool overnight. You have a built in temperature reader and when at the right temp just use the tap and dump into the fermenter " Any thoughts? I believe @Itinerant Peasant uses a similar method at the Mountain Brewery and has not had adverse results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, kmar92 said: I believe @Itinerant Peasant uses a similar method at the Mountain Brewery and has not had adverse results. Cheers @kmar92 KMar yes mate -- I steam the already clean and heated from the Mash -- SS lid -- taken off for the Boil -- steamed before replacing -- then on after FO usually with a hop addition at FO. Then I sort-of-weight the Lid Down with a 10kg weight on top of a freshly washed teatowel cotton cloth... and cool with a fan overnight to whatever temp I am chasing. Also I am happy to do this in cool-overnight-ambient-Southern-temps and especially in Winter as you can get the liquid down to 20 degC and below quite rapidly. And it does seem to facilitate the production of taschty Beer : ) I would never use Clingfilm tho... am a bit of a paranoid non-plastic near my brew person and especially not when it is hot liquid/temps... besides the food-grade-Si-good-quality white hose used in transfers - and that is usually done at lower temps. I realise people use Clingfilm in a microwave heating food situation but I don't like that either - just use ceramic and pyrex in the MWave... Anyway each to their own hey. And yeah, as @Shamus O'Sean SOS notes - I saw that JPalmer had seemed ok with it in his book - cooling overnight - and so I thought why not give it a go and now do it pretty much as standard practice... I think if I move to a warmer environment I might do the cubing thing as although it is plazzi it is food grade and hopefully built to take hot Brew... and although would rather keep streaming hot brew in SS, Pyrex or Ceramic, plenty of your Brewers do use this plazzi cubing methodology quite happily it seems HTH : ) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Classic Brewing Co said: I have wondered about this myself but I will cube until it is deemed safe. In my view, cooling in the brew kettle is at least as safe as cubing. You can get an infection from both methods. Neither is perfectly safe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: In my view, cooling in the brew kettle is at least as safe as cubing. You can get an infection from both methods. Neither is perfectly safe. Yeah I would definitely agree, it's all about sanitising & practicing strict cleaning regimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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