pilotsh Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bearded Burbler said: ...vvvvvverrrra verry nice Well if I was going to buy a redundancy present for myself (more than a decade of service), I thought this would be the best present to buy! Edited September 11, 2020 by pilotsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Pale Man said: Great time of year to be attacking one of these. Well, that would be in October..... as we about to pitch the ROTM Belgian Chocolate Stouts and Lamington Stouts.... then the knockoff Beez Kneez attempt (beginners with a nostalgic memory) the very next one after that. Edited September 11, 2020 by pilotsh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Brew 010: Coopers Stout Can- Friday 11th September: 244 hours (10.17days) since pitch. Brew Temp: 21.8C. Comments: Bottling tomorrow (Saturday) provided SG is still at 1012. Photo(s): Nil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Brew 010: Coopers Stout Can- Saturday 12th September: 265 hours (11.04days) from pitching to bottling. Brew Temp: 21.6C. FG (SG): 1011.5 therefore Brew 10 is 4.2% ABV (3.7+0.5) Appearance: Rusty black coffee. Nose: Stone fruit, burnt sugar. Palate: Bitter tropical fruits, green coffee, tart apricot. Comments: Primed bottles 1-15 and 33 with carbonation drops. Bottles 16-32 are from a Maple syrup Batch Prime. Photo(s): Edited September 12, 2020 by pilotsh Added photos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Brew 009: Coopers European Lager with Nottingham Yeast- Sunday 20th September: Taste test Appearance: Golden Brown, nice fizz, nice head, that dissipate over about 4 minutes. Nose: Stone fruit, apricot. Palate: Crisp, light , refreshing. Tropical flavours. Comments: Right on four weeks since bottling. Not bad. Can't wait to see what it tastes like after another four weeks. Photo(s): 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Brew 011: ROTM Belgian Chocolate Stout- Sunday 20th September: Preparation/Steep Chocolate Malt Grain Steep today, as per instructions. They say just use a cloth straight from the packet, but the packet says to rinse thoroughly before and after each use.... I just followed the Coopers Instructions and just used the cloth straight from the pack, as I will we boiling the wort tomorrow. I assume everyone just uses the cloth straight from the pack? I used a plastic clip to hold the chux top together. Photo(s): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, pilotsh said: used the cloth straight from the pack, I am a believer in boiling any cloth grain retention entity with vinegar or something acid to ensure any potential leachable compounds are gone... suspect if this is being done by a commercial provider (Coopers) it should be fine... but even with my very first BIAB nylon food grade heat stable bag... I boiled it for a while just to ensure there was nothing left... you should be fine but it's just a thought... and would not use plastic clip - stainless steel clothes pegs are readily available... anyway you were not boiling for hours either... just any of these 'foregin materials' could provide compounds into the brew... Stainless, Ceramic, and Pyrex... all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Jones Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, pilotsh said: Brew 011: ROTM Belgian Chocolate Stout- Sunday 20th September: Preparation/Steep Chocolate Malt Grain Steep today, as per instructions. They say just use a cloth straight from the packet, but the packet says to rinse thoroughly before and after each use.... I just followed the Coopers Instructions and just used the cloth straight from the pack, as I will we boiling the wort tomorrow. I assume everyone just uses the cloth straight from the pack? I used a plastic clip to hold the chux top together. Photo(s): As an alternative to a clip, cut a strip from the Chux and use that to tie the bundle together. It just saves another "thing" being introduced to the mix that requires sanitising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltop hops Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, Pickles Jones said: As an alternative to a clip, cut a strip from the Chux and use that to tie the bundle together. It just saves another "thing" being introduced to the mix that requires sanitising. Yeah I do the same, also not sure its required but for my dry hopping I place the chux in boiling water first then spray with Starsan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, pilotsh said: Were the grains cracked (put into a zip lock bag and broken up with a rolling pin)? These look rather whole. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Were the grains cracked (put into a zip lock bag and broken up with a rolling pin)? These look rather whole. Um no, we both read the instructions and no mention in there of cracking them with a rolling pin.....! I thought they provide them cracked..... !? Is it too late to crack them now? Panic.... please advise! Edited September 20, 2020 by pilotsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Pickles Jones said: As an alternative to a clip, cut a strip from the Chux and use that to tie the bundle together. It just saves another "thing" being introduced to the mix that requires sanitising. 1 hour ago, Hilltop hops said: Yeah I do the same, also not sure its required but for my dry hopping I place the chux in boiling water first then spray with Starsan. Next time I will boil the chux, just to be sure. As for the clip, I saw that tomorrow I will bring this liquid to boil so wasn't too worried: the clip was sanitised before use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The Day Before: Line a pot (at least 4 litres) with a mesh cleaning cloth (pulled straight from the pack), then add the cracked grain and 2 litres of cold water. In the instructions as step 1. Yeah the grain 100% needed to be cracked. Unsure if you can some how dry and crack . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, pilotsh said: clip was sanitised before use. not about being non-sterile... more about introducing plastic compound volatiles into the brew... stainless is good - or tie up bag with strip of same cloth... but previously boil the ffkkk out of them with maybe bit of vinegar to ensure there is nothing that will come out of cloth or the blue colour dyes etc... so not introducing extraneous non-wanted compounds into the brew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Smashed Crabs said: The Day Before: Line a pot (at least 4 litres) with a mesh cleaning cloth (pulled straight from the pack), then add the cracked grain and 2 litres of cold water. In the instructions as step 1. Yeah the grain 100% needed to be cracked. Unsure if you can some how dry and crack . . . Ok, this could be taken both ways: they sent the packet with a measured amount of the grain for the recipe. I still think they should have specified what they sent needed to be cracked. The instructions say it in passing... eg: This would have been much better instructions....: "Step one. Place provided grains in a ziploc and crack them. Step two: The Day Before: Line a pot (at least 4 litres) with a mesh cleaning cloth (pulled straight from the pack), then add the cracked grain and 2 litres of cold water. " Ok, what do I do, chuck it, order more grain and lose a week, crack it now (it's only been soaking 2.5 hours), or dry them in my dehydrator and start again (but keep the water in the fridge) Edited September 20, 2020 by pilotsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Smashed Crabs said: Unsure if you can some how dry and crack . . . I reckon you could just do your best to try to smash up what you have right now... even wet... as best you can... as whole malted grain is not likely to provide the resultant fermentables... you just won't get the surface area to allow the solubles to come out into solution... maybe just smash 'em up however and steep again maybe? Keep that previous fluid for the brew. Otherwise... move on and do that next time. Or if LHBS next door fetch a bit of crystal malt and get them to crack it and then steep that? Edited September 20, 2020 by Bearded Burbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, pilotsh said: Ok, what do I do, chuck it, order more grain and lose a week, crack it now (it's only been soaking 2.5 hours), or dry them in my dehydrator and start again (but keep the water in the fridge) I would keep the fluid - water in the fridge - off it - use in brew tomorrow. Take grain out and try to roll it like porridge... flatten the grains... and then stew/steep that up... Like try to smash it up a bit... rolling pin... baking paper sheets with grain in between and hit with hammer not too hard? I would not dry them out again... I mean you could do that but I reckon just try to squish them up a bit right now and put back with another fresh batch of hot water - and then use both batches of fluid for the brew... the non-smashed grain fluid (now in fridge) and the new smashed-grain fluid... that you are about to make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just had a look through a few of the recipes on there site and noticed the one your making is probably the only one where they leave the zip lock method out. Sparkling Tonic ROTM. The Day Before: Line a pot (at least 4 litres) with a mesh cleaning cloth (pulled straight from the pack). Place the grain in a plastic zip-lock sandwich bag and crack them using a rolling pin. Add the cracked grain and 3 litres of cold water, fit the lid and sit in the fridge overnight But yeah that's the method you don't own a mill for the small amounts of grain used in these ROTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 Saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, pilotsh said: Saved? Might be worth double wrapping her, should be right Edited September 20, 2020 by Smashed Crabs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Smashed Crabs said: double wrapping It is. Still,bashing a bit, seems to be working (I can start to smell "coffee") Edited September 20, 2020 by pilotsh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Meant with the chux, you don't want to pulverize it into a paste just crack them so you can extract the goodness within 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Smashed Crabs said: you don't want to pulverize it into a paste I can still feel the grains, so I will stop. I am happy, I can smell 'coffee'. I am just boiling a little pot with some water for the second chux. Luckily they were still firm.... they had only been soaking a couple of hours. I think I have saved it. Thanks everyone! I'll post a photo in a few minutes once it is back in the pot. Edited September 20, 2020 by pilotsh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) Saved! Much better colour already! Thanks everyone for the eagle eyes and assistance! Tied it off with a strip of chux and not the plastic clip! Edited September 20, 2020 by pilotsh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotsh Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 54 minutes ago, Smashed Crabs said: Just had a look through a few of the recipes on there site and noticed the one your making is probably the only one where they leave the zip lock method out. Well that is just my luck, isn't it, lol. The first ROTM I do and the instructions are dodgy! Murphy's Law strikes again!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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