ben 10 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 So, idea is to make a Rosella Saison. Simple grain bill, minimal hops and rosellas. When do I add them? Boil add cordial to FV? Dry hop? Cube hop? Ideas, thoughts and non stylist info is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Haha whatever you do don't pluck or you won't get any colour. Fish them out after a few days before it gets too rainbow-ey ... maybe add some lorikeets and galahs for complexity? I've got my next saison recipe ready ... another 10 litre batch with harvested Wyeast 3726. Might try rinsing the yeast this time, have been watching some videos and doesn't look too hard. Grain: 1.25kg Best Malz Heidelberg Pils 50g 240ebc crystal 10g choc malt 500g LDM Hops: 15g B Saaz @ 60mins 10g Amarillo @ flamout 10g NS @ flameout 10g B Saaz @ flameout Going to no-chill this one hence all the hops at flameout, got my siphon and cube ready and keen to give it a go! Alas, not a rosella in sight. Cat's too lazy to catch me some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 So' date=' idea is to make a Rosella Saison.Simple grain bill, minimal hops and rosellas. When do I add them? Boil add cordial to FV? Dry hop? Cube hop? Ideas, thoughts and non stylist info is welcome.[/quote'] I was going to ask you how to use them. A few months ago I did some charity work at a local farm which allows refugees and new immigrants an opportunity to grow crops for their local community. A few of the African groups grow a shed load of Rosella. The foreman in charge told me to come back in April and I could collect a heap of fresh Rosella. I was thinking of a Rosella wheat beer, which I think you have previously brewed. How did you use it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hi Ben. So' date=' idea is to make a Rosella Saison.Simple grain bill, minimal hops and rosellas. When do I add them? Boil add cordial to FV? Dry hop? Cube hop? Ideas, thoughts and non stylist info is welcome.[/quote'] What method did you use on the wheat beer you brewed with it last year? And were you happy with the results? Personally, I'd make a sugar solution/syrup with it & then add that into the brew wort prior to pitching the yeast. Perhaps like THIS. Good luck with it Ben. I reckon it could be a real winner if done well. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Ok more seriously, after primary fermentation is dying down, I'd make up a tea by adding them to water just off the boil and then steep them in a coffee plunger for 15 minutes or so. Then drain the liquid into the fermenter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I made a cordial and used that. The results were okay but didn't have the colour I was hoping for. I am leaning towards throwing them into the cube. Hmm... And Hairy - they are damn good, get heaps and make some jam too, bit of a PITA but yummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnaman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I'm just thinking out loud here, would a three way attack be the way to go? cordial, some in FV and some in the cube? so as to build flavour and hopefully colour? amounts have got to be difficult too get right, lot's of luck however you do it. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2015 Author Share Posted February 15, 2015 Went cube hop style. Used MJs Belgian Ale yeast. Appears to have stopped @ 1008, 7.5%. As tarty as Paris Hilton - just a hydro sample. Will let sit or a few days then bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Sneaky early one or two and this is very nice. Very tart and tangy. Just what I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiphile Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 So as our resident self-confessed tart expert, are you happy with the MJ Belgian yeast or would you have preferred another type of saison-style yeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Very happy. Re pitched yesterday into a more standard saison. Less yeast derived flavour from this than Belle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Sneaky early one or two and this is very nice.Very tart and tangy. Just what I wanted. Congrats on beer Ben! When you first mentioned doing this' date=' I was pretty sure this would be a lovely beer in the end. Any chance of one of your cool beer pics of this in a glass? [img']wink[/img] I reckon it might look pretty spesh if the hue is what I'm thinking it could be. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Negative on the hue. Apparently I put JW roasted in, killed any chance of colour coming through. I will get another harvest and will endeavour to have a lighter grain bill so some pink comes through. I think it will as all the colour was gone from the rosellas when I emptied the cube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 That's a shame about the hue on the current Rosella beer Ben. But at least it tastes good! I'd really enjoy seeing a recipe & pic of a lighter malted beer with a good whack of your Rosella flowers influencing the colour & flavour. It's a beer I'm very interested in brewing one day, so am reading & watching what you are doing each time you use these flowers. Good luck with the next incantation. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 Incantation or incarnation? Drinking one now. LOVE saison. Love love love beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnaman Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Lusty believes in magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Lusty believes in magic. Why make JUST beer' date=' when you can make magic! [img']wink[/img] Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Next crop doing it's thing. I planted these once, now just let them go to seed and drop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hi Ben. I hope you keep updating this thread with info & pics of your processes with the Rosella flowers & your brews using them. I certainly find it all very interesting. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Will do, providing my memory doesn't escape me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiphile Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wouldn't it be easier to just put a few bird traps in the backyard, B10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Maybe the flowers are sticky like a fly trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Maybe the flowers are sticky like a fly trap? I used to have a few Venus Fly Traps. Great fly killers! Cheers' date=' Lusty.[/size'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 600g cleaned and in the freezer. Three times the last amount with a very pale grain bill should make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 If you can replicate the colour I've seen this stuff when made into a cordial-like drink in your beer, that will be something to behold in the glass! My fingers are crossed, so good luck with the brew when you get around to it Ben! Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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