Mill Master

[therealthing691]

well all setup did a couple hundred grams of pale malt . I think it looks ok  but might try it just a little larger . It's set at about 1.5mm  in the photo it looks like sum grains are still whole but are nearly none it doesn't crush them it snaps them with the flutes cheers

[Shamus O'Sean]

On 12/9/2023 at 3:44 PM, therealthing691 said:

That crush looks too course to me.  However, I use a mill with knurled rollers not fluted rollers.  My mill is set pretty close to 1mm, maybe a little wider.  It seems to work for me and my system.

Occasionally I get grains that look whole.  However, when I check, I can break the husk and the grain inside with my fingernail.  Hence, the mill has done its job.  If you cannot break the husk and grain with your fingernail, I suggest it is still intact and you will get very little out of it.  

[Aussiekraut]

On 12/10/2023 at 10:17 PM, Shamus O'Sean said:

That crush looks too course to me.  However, I use a mill with knurled rollers not fluted rollers.  My mill is set pretty close to 1mm, maybe a little wider.  It seems to work for me and my system.

Occasionally I get grains that look whole.  However, when I check, I can break the husk and the grain inside with my fingernail.  Hence, the mill has done its job.  If you cannot break the husk and grain with your fingernail, I suggest it is still intact and you will get very little out of it.  

It looks a little coarse but it depends a lot on the system you're milling for I suppose. What worked perfectly fine for me using the Guten is shockingly bad for the BrewZilla. First brew I had to deal with clogged top and bottom plates, to the point where the recirc liquor was building up on top because it couldn't run through the plate. So I milled extra large for the last batch and efficiency suffered big time, as some grains weren't crushed properly. Next brew I go a little finer until I have it set correctly again. 

 

[therealthing691]

Thanks guys I actually checked with filler gauges is set at 1.4 mm and took out about .5kg and only found two smaller grains the were all broke and was a little powder see how we go  .Have milled it that   see how we go  cheers

[therealthing691]

Cheers and thanks will work it out from this brew a little coarser is better as it is going to have 28% oats.... Will see what BHE is cheers 

[Shamus O'Sean]

1 hour ago, therealthing691 said:

28% oats

Rice hulls will be your friend.  I managed to get 20kg of the stuff a little while ago from somebody who got it from a rice farm in NSW.  I chuck handfuls into any brew with wheat, oats, rye, etc.

[therealthing691]

Yep always do Nuthin worse than a stuck mash or Sprage..,..  If my grain is a little coarse will adjust for the next one just didn't won't it too fine for this ... I tried the finger nail test  with any thing that looked untouched and it does fall apart.... So hopefully all good  cheers and thanks Shamus  also AK

[stquinto]

I grind mine a bit finer, and I brew with a GF40. The Malt Miller is an awesome piece of kit, notwithstanding the postage costs to Europe. I’ve worked out it’s less than a minute per kilo

[therealthing691]

I would say after brewing a little coarse BHE is usually just above 65%  was about 5 points off 65% but a good starting point  cheers and thanks again 

[Pale Man]

On 12/13/2023 at 9:16 PM, Shamus O'Sean said:

Rice hulls will be your friend.  I managed to get 20kg of the stuff a little while ago from somebody who got it from a rice farm in NSW.  I chuck handfuls into any brew with wheat, oats, rye, etc.

Rice hulls are the GOAT. I brew wheat beers with a lot of wheat, and my recirc and sparges are good. I mix them in dry with the wheat before I mash in.

[Pale Man]

On 12/15/2023 at 5:19 AM, stquinto said:

I grind mine a bit finer, and I brew with a GF40. The Malt Miller is an awesome piece of kit, notwithstanding the postage costs to Europe. I’ve worked out it’s less than a minute per kilo

Thats a fine crush.

[Shamus O'Sean]

4 hours ago, Pale Man said:

Rice hulls are the GOAT. I brew wheat beers with a lot of wheat, and my recirc and sparges are good. I mix them in dry with the wheat before I mash in.

That's a good idea.  

I usually sprinkle 1 big handful of rice hulls over the surface of the mash water then add 3 scoops of crushed grain (my scoop holds about 300g).  Then I stir that in and repeat until all the grain is added.  I mix all my grains together and mill them in one lot.  What are your thoughts on milling the wheat separately?

[stquinto]

7 hours ago, Pale Man said:

Thats a fine crush.

It is pretty fine, true, but I’ve not had a stuck sparge so far

[Tricky Micky]

20 hours ago, Pale Man said:

Thats a fine crush.

Sorry Paley, but this did make me chuckle. As in - not course or good looking. 

[Popo the Reprobate]

On 12/13/2023 at 9:46 PM, Shamus O'Sean said:

Rice hulls will be your friend.  I managed to get 20kg of the stuff a little while ago from somebody who got it from a rice farm in NSW.  I chuck handfuls into any brew with wheat, oats, rye, etc.

How big is that bag of rice hulls? Must be huge?

[Classic Brewing Co]

17 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said:

That's a good idea.  

I usually sprinkle 1 big handful of rice hulls over the surface of the mash water then add 3 scoops of crushed grain (my scoop holds about 300g).  Then I stir that in and repeat until all the grain is added.  I mix all my grains together and mill them in one lot.  What are your thoughts on milling the wheat separately?

Same here Shamus I always have a handful in the mash.

[Pale Man]

18 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said:

That's a good idea.  

I usually sprinkle 1 big handful of rice hulls over the surface of the mash water then add 3 scoops of crushed grain (my scoop holds about 300g).  Then I stir that in and repeat until all the grain is added.  I mix all my grains together and mill them in one lot.  What are your thoughts on milling the wheat separately?

Definitely mill wheat separately as its usually smaller than barley. I close up my mill first, mill wheat, then open up for the rest.

[Tricky Micky]

2 hours ago, Tricky Micky said:

Sorry Paley, but this did make me chuckle. As in - not course or good looking. 

*coarse - DOH!

[Pale Man]

20 minutes ago, Tricky Micky said:

*coarse - DOH!

Yeah I meant fine as in powdery

[Classic Brewing Co]

1 hour ago, Pale Man said:

Definitely mill wheat separately as its usually smaller than barley. I close up my mill first, mill wheat, then open up for the rest.

Thats interesting, I will keep that in mind, the wheat malt I have ATM is milled but I will try & remember that for next time.

Cheers.

[Shamus O'Sean]

7 hours ago, Popo the Degenerate said:

How big is that bag of rice hulls? Must be huge?

Not as big as you might think.  Probably a similar volume to a sack of grain.  However, it is compacted very tightly into more of a bale about 0.5m wide x 0.4m deep x 0.6m high.

[therealthing691]

Well first brew with the  mill a oatcream IPA  nectaron galaxy and Amarillo DDH haven't used verdant for a while down to FG in 72 hrs from pitching cheers and merry Christmas to all enjoy

[Back Brewing]

51 minutes ago, therealthing691 said:

Well first brew with the  mill a oatcream IPA  nectaron galaxy and Amarillo DDH haven't used verdant for a while down to FG in 72 hrs from pitching cheers and merry Christmas to all enjoy

Yep that verdant is a muncher same here 72 hours and it was finished and a merry Christmas to you also

Edited December 20, 2023 by Back Brewing

[therealthing691]

Not half bad 

 

[Aussiekraut]

On 1/1/2024 at 6:08 PM, therealthing691 said:

Not half bad 

 

Looks good but a Clausthaler glass? 

For those who don't know, Clausthaler is a pioneer in alcohol-free beers in Germany. It never had a great reputation, mainly because it had no alcohol and in the 80s, this type of beer was the butt of many jokes. 

Their slogan used to be "Immer? Nicht immer, aber immer öfter", meaning "Always? Not always but more and more often". They used to have this cool ad though. A guy stands at the bar and an interviewer asks him about alcohol-free beer and the fella says yep, I like it but only Clausthaler. When asked why, he says well, it works. The dog listens better than before. He tells the dog to sit and it doesn't, so the interviewer says "Always?" and the guy replies "Not always" and when the dog sits down, "but more and more often".