King Ruddager Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 Hmmm, I wonder if an all-grain lager takes as long to condition as a kit lager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I'd say so. Having done numerous all grain lagers, they're drinkable at first but they certainly improve more with further cold conditioning. Probably happens faster in kegs though. One batch I tapped pretty much the day after it was kegged, and it improved a lot after about a month in the keg. In bottles that improvement might take two months. There's no real substitute for long cold conditioning. You just have to have patience and wait for it to do its thing. Of course, personal taste comes into it as well, you may find they're enjoyable enough with less conditioning time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 The weather is helping in that respect at the moment, which is good. I don't think it's gone above 12 today, and overnight is near freezing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Stuff that but yeah good for lagering. I can't cold condition all my lagers for long periods, it depends on the brewing schedule. The one currently on tap I am able to, it was the first of the two to go in, and I've put it at the back so it will be drunk second after the red ale that went in yesterday which won't be tapped til next weekend. As such, after its nearly two weeks cold in the fermenter it has had another 3 weeks cold in the keg and will get another 3-4 weeks cold before it gets drunk properly. The next one is the second batch of two so while it will also be put in the back, it will have a few weeks less at the cold temps before I drink it. Nice to be able to keep them cold though. I hated letting them warm up to room temperature before chilling them down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey.gringo Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I mostly see my early life living in Scotland as a massive missed lagering opportunity now, I was lucky to get my house up to 12 degrees half the year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon 1525230220 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Hey KR/Fast Home Brew Have you tried your European Lager again recently? If so has it improved? Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Yes, and it has definitely improved. Still has a way to go probably, but it's drinkable enough now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon 1525230220 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Cheers. Had one of the kits lying around from Christmas present sonhave put it down. Not expecting much but will see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermoor Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I checked my EU lager today, it has taken 3 weeks but is finally ready to bottle. It is tasting really good. I did the Coopers Green Neck Lager version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hmmm ... dare I try an Oktoberfest that's been in the bottle only 4 days? What if I called it a Marzen instead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Go for it Ruddy. It should be carbed up enough, if not, a coupla days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Yeah it's under carved but drinkable at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Next time make sure you carve it up properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullys Brewing Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) So chunky you could carve it. I tried my week old Kolcsh, Delish Edited July 22, 2018 by Gully85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 carbed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 7:44 PM, Otto Von Blotto said: There are way better lagers out there than Foster's or Carlsberg Mike. From Czech pilsner to the various German styles through to the modern hoppy ones, the quality is excellent and they have a decent flavour too. Hey mate, can you recommend a good commercial example? I've never managed to find a lager I like but I would dearly love to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, PhilboBaggins said: Hey mate, can you recommend a good commercial example? I've never managed to find a lager I like but I would dearly love to. My go to ones are usually Pilsner Urquell or Budvar. Paulaner is pretty decent too. I don't really drink a lot of commercial ones because I prefer my own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 I did it again - week old ESVA this time. Not quite as bad though at least 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmaril Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 10:51 PM, Otto Von Blotto said: My go to ones are usually Pilsner Urquell or Budvar. Paulaner is pretty decent too. I don't really drink a lot of commercial ones because I prefer my own Is there a kits and bits recipe for a Pilsner Urquell clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#granted+brew Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Hi @Silmaril i brewed the 'Coopers Czech Pils' from the recipes page. Its no Urquell, but with a bigger hop addition and maybe a hop boil rather than a steep I think you could get something pretty good. I lowered the ABV with mine to 4.3% , its 47* days in the bottle and getting better by the week. Cheers, Lee *31 of those days lagering Edited September 29, 2018 by #granted+brew I'm a geek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmaril Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Speak of the devil, my local bottleshop has Pilsner Urquell bottles, 5 for $10. Past the best before date, but I've picked up 5 to try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 So three days in the bottle isn't enough for all grain either. Could still taste the bottling sugar in a brew I was very keen to try last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Why would it be? The brewing method doesn't make any difference to how long they take to carbonate properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Oh yeah I know that, I was just waaaaaay too keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther Branch Brewing Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I had a bottle of an all grain cream ale last night that I bottled just a week ago. It isn't near ready or there's something horribly wrong with it. Interesting how beer gets better with time. I usually go a minimum of three weeks in the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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