AlanT58 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hi all I see coopers stocks light malt extract in a can and light dry malt in a box Are these interchangeable in the recipes on this site or are they apples vs oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hackenbushel Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Not entirely interchangeable. LME has a higher percentage of water compared to DME. I forget how much exactly but LME = DME x 0.8 or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dr. Hackenbushel said: Not entirely interchangeable. LME has a higher percentage of water compared to DME. I forget how much exactly but LME = DME x 0.8 or something like that DME = LME x 0.8 So 1kg DME = 1.25kg LME and 1.5kg LME = 1.2kg DME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hackenbushel Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Check your math. LME = DME x 0.8 1.5 = 1.5 x 0.8 = 1.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dr. Hackenbushel said: Check your math. LME = DME x 0.8 1.5 = 1.5 x 0.8 = 1.25 Nothing wrong with Hairy's math. 1.5 x 0.8 = 1.2 Back to the drawing board Doc. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hackenbushel Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Haha oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Hackenbushel said: Check your math. LME = DME x 0.8 1.5 = 1.5 x 0.8 = 1.25 Leaving out the numbers, the equation is incorrect. The conversions should be: DME = LME x 0.8 LME = DME / 0.8 All good. I had to triple check it to make sure (and I am still nervous hitting Submit Reply) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanT58 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 Yeah I was just thinking of the cost involved of 1 vs the other if they're the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 DME gives more gravity points as well per gram from what I’ve read. Whilst we’re talking maths and partial extracts. If you wanna swap grains for dry malt. Is there a simple formula. I’ve had a look online but it seems to be complex as you need to know your desired gravities etc. i was thinking surely there’s an easier/ simpler conversion I.e an all grain recipe asks for 4.5 kgs of 2 row how much do you reduce the grain bill by if you wanna use some dry malt extract ( I understand you still require some two row ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 You can completely replace grain with extract. I don't think there would be a simple formula though because it would have to assume that all grain mashes extracted the same amount of sugars per kg of grain, which just isn't the case. In other words, different recipes from different brewers would require different amounts of grain to arrive at the same OG. The easiest way would be to use something like Ian's spreadsheet and just add enough extract to the recipe to match the target OG. If there are any spec malt additions, add them in first then top up the OG with extract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Cheers codge. I have read that beersmith 3 has a handy recipe converter. Which makes the urge to get it grow more and more in me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean's of Ale- Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (Q) Are Lme& dme interchangeable? Yes! ( Lme k/g÷0.8=dme) (Q) Flavour wise ? They are Apples and orange's in my opinion! Liquid malt extract (on it's own), has a canned flavour.. a sort of metallic over tone, i remmember (Christina s1) called it a "twang" from memory...sort of summed it up for me too. Whilst (dme) dried malt extract, has a sort of powdery... characterless flavour about it's..some what a...(i dont know)...a neutral malt flavour. Depending on the recpice.. use both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, blurred said: (Q) Are Lme& dme interchangeable? Yes! ( Lme k/g÷0.8=dme) (Q) Flavour wise ? They are Apples and orange's in my opinion! Liquid malt extract (on it's own), has a canned flavour.. a sort of metallic over tone, i remmember (Christina s1) called it a "twang" from memory...sort of summed it up for me too. Whilst (dme) dried malt extract, has a sort of powdery... characterless flavour about it's..some what a...(i dont know)...a neutral malt flavour. Depending on the recpice.. use both. Use both! You sold them both so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean's of Ale- Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Mate it's almost midnight...that's really the best i can brew brother. There's plenty of good advice up the column.. he knows that!.. iam just a late night after though. The question has been resolved he's wondering what on earth iam babbling about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanT58 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 well thanks to all for confusin the hell out of my tiny brain. Guess ill be stickin to the recipes until i learn where an when i can fudge it. but i am now real keen to work up to grains and expand my very limited brewing knowledge. Thanks again and Cheers Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean's of Ale- Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yeah apologies alant, that was hardly my finest post matey, it was getting late & i was struggling to articulate. I suspect the point i was alluding to was, both dme & lme work brilliantly together, on there own can slightly taste different uless your using grain and the ingredients are very fresh ingredients, at least, it seems that way to me. Happy brewing matey - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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