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I guess it is Stout or Porter time soon.

 

Last year I made this (twice) and it was REALLY good.

 

Brewer: Grumpy

Style: Robust Porter

 

Recipe Specifications

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Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l

Estimated OG: 1.066 SG

Estimated Color: 64.2 EBC

Estimated IBU: 60.1 IBUs

 

Ingredients:

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4.50 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (5.9 EB Grain 1 68.7 %

1.00 kg Munich II (Weyermann) (16.7 EBC) Grain 2 15.3 %

0.50 kg Brown Malt (Simpsons) (295.5 EBC) Grain 3 7.6 %

0.35 kg Caraaroma (Weyermann) (350.7 EBC) Grain 4 5.3 %

0.20 kg Roasted Malt (Joe White) (1199.7 EBC) Grain 5 3.1 %

26.00 g Chinook [12.60 %] - First Wort 90.0 min Hop 6 34.7 IBUs

25.00 g Northern Brewer [5.85 %] - First Wort 90 Hop 7 15.5 IBUs

50.00 g Marynka [7.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 8 9.9 IBUs

 

Any suggestions for a Stout?

I have Brown, Choc, Roasted, Cararoma and Ale malts... And some hops, no nobles, just big nasty ones...

 

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I posted a recipe in the brew day thread last night, although I'm thinking of cutting the volume back to 21 litres in anticipation of a volcanic fermentation with the 1469 yeast.

 

It contains 85% MO, 7% roasted barley with the rest being made up of smaller amounts of choc malt, black patent and medium crystal. Only a bittering addition of 100g Willamette (to get rid of it) and 10g Magnum although may increase the Magnum a bit.

 

It's similar to the last one I brewed a couple of years or more ago, which I still have 3 bottles of now and the flavour is bloody amazing.

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This a Porter that I like to brew. I have done it a few times now and it always is a favourite. I known there are a lot of ingredients that are not in your list but I thought I'd post it anyways for something to think about.

 

The Carafa II is a nice malt and if you can get your hands on some you should do it. I think the US-05 makes a nice choice of yeast for this style as it neutral flavour lets the malt shine. As for the Honey malt, I know you blokes from Down under can't get your hands on it. I would simple substitute it with another sweet, light, crystal type malt ( Maybe Caraaroma unsure)

 

Honey brown Porter OG 1.044

40L water

4.5 Kg Pale Malt

.68 Kg Honey Malt

.5 Kg Flaked Barley

.5 Kg Crystal 80L

.3 Kg Carafa II

.23 Kg Chocolate malt

.2 Kg Wheat malt

20g Target (60mins) 11.6 IBU

10g Magnum (60mins) 8.1 IBU

21.5g Fuggles (15mins) 3.7 IBU

23.5g EKG (5mins) 1.4 IBU

WLP013/US-05 split batch

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Hiya Ben. smile

Any suggestions for a Stout?

I don't brew a lot of darks' date=' but have heard good things about this commercial stout. I'd like to try it before I'd have a crack at brewing it, but it looks the goods & sounds nice. [img']cool[/img]

 

Deschutes Brewery - Obsidian Stout

 

Cheers,

 

Lusty.

 

Hi Lusty. Do you suppose that the ingredients are listed in order of percentages? If so, it is rather interesting that they have both carapils and wheat in the grist, and that carapils is the third ingredient, larger than Munich, and that wheat is the last ingredient. Maybe it is torrified wheat? They must be using a lot of crystal. And given that they call for both Black Barley and Roasted Barley, and the fact that they are an American company, my guess is that they are using Briess products. Keep in mind that Briess's Roasted Barley isn't very dark, just 300L/400SRM/800EBC, so a lot less intense than other roasted barleys. Briess's Black Barley is 500L/675SRM/1330EBC, so more similar to other roasted barleys on the market. Can you get Briess roasted barley? If you can't I might be tempted to substitute a chocolate malt of a similar colour (maybe Joe White). Just my two cents.

 

You will have to let us know how it turns out. Cheers! -Christina.

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Just dropping OVBs here for easy finding for me...

 

I'm doing a brew day this Saturday' date=' but I figured I'd just post the recipe now anyway. Brewing a stout, loosely in the Foreign Extra style. Have dropped my brewhouse efficiency down to 63% for this one, to account for the larger than usual grain bill. Mash efficiency drops to 69%. First stout brew since late 2013 I believe. The large Willamette addition is basically just to use it up since I don't think I'll be using it in anything else.

 

Batch size = 21 litres.

 

[b']Grains[/b]

6.000 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (Thomas Fawcett) (5.6 EBC) Grain 1 85.1 %

0.500 kg Roasted Barley (Thomas Fawcett) (1350.0 EBC) Grain 2 7.1 %

0.200 kg Chocolate Malt (Thomas Fawcett) (1100.0 EBC) Grain 3 2.8 %

0.200 kg Crystal Malt - Medium (Thomas Fawcett) (150.0 EBC) Grain 4 2.8 %

0.150 kg Black Malt (Thomas Fawcett) (1300.2 EBC) Grain 5 2.1 %

 

Hops

100.00 g Willamette [4.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 45.2 IBUs

10.00 g Magnum [12.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 13.1 IBUs

 

Yeast

Wyeast 1469 West Yorkshire Ale (starter)

 

90 minute mash at ~64C, followed by 10 minute mash-out at 78C.

 

75 minute boil, no-chilled with no hop adjustments.

 

Est Original Gravity: 1.066 SG

Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG

Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.6 %

Bitterness: 58.4 IBUs

Est Color: 116.0 EBC

 

 

 

Probably gives yours a go too Chad, gotta remember the flaked barley...

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I've tried that Obsidian Stout, it was available at a boutique beer joint here in Brisbane (perhaps still is I don't know), a couple of years ago when me and my missus at the time used to regularly go to these places to try new beers. It was bloody nice, that's all I remember of it now lol

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Coopers extra stout has a the balls a man realy needs

 

 

hehe

I'm drinking a few largies of Coopers Best Extra Stout as i read this.

Never really liked Stout but started drinking it a bit recently.

Did brew up a 2 can Stout+Dark Ale about 2 years ago and that was rather strong and very tasty.

And been thinking bout doing it again and wanted to buy the recipe kit for the Devils Brew Porter but all you lucky buggers beat me to it.

 

Still bought a couple of cans of the Porter in the store an hour ago and can't wait for the delivery so i can brew one upbiggrinbiggrin

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Hiya Ben. smile

Any suggestions for a Stout?

I don't brew a lot of darks' date=' but have heard good things about this commercial stout. I'd like to try it before I'd have a crack at brewing it, but it looks the goods & sounds nice. [img']cool[/img]

 

Deschutes Brewery - Obsidian Stout

 

Cheers,

 

Lusty.

Coopers Stout mix and 1kg of dextrose which gives it a crisper taste

then the juice of a lemon or a lime

 

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Thoughts on this?

 

Recipe: Smoked Porter

Brewer: Grumpy

Style: Robust Porter

TYPE: All Grain

 

 

Recipe Specifications

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Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l

Estimated OG: 1.058 SG

Estimated Color: 66.2 EBC

Estimated IBU: 51.0 IBUs

Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %

 

Ingredients:

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU

3.50 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -

1.50 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -

2.00 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 3 33.1 %

1.00 kg Gladfield Manuka Smoked Malt (4.0 EBC) Grain 4 16.5 %

1.00 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 5 16.5 %

1.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 6 16.5 %

0.50 kg Brown Malt (Simpsons) (295.5 EBC) Grain 7 8.3 %

0.35 kg Caraaroma (Weyermann) (350.7 EBC) Grain 8 5.8 %

0.20 kg Gladfield Dark Chocolate Malt (1300.0 EB Grain 9 3.3 %

33.00 g 007 [14.60 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 10 51.0 IBUs

 

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Thoughts on this?

 

Recipe: Smoked Porter

Brewer: Grumpy

Style: Robust Porter

TYPE: All Grain

 

 

Recipe Specifications

--------------------------

 

Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l

Estimated OG: 1.058 SG

Estimated Color: 66.2 EBC

Estimated IBU: 51.0 IBUs

Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %

 

Ingredients:

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU

3.50 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -

1.50 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -

2.00 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 3 33.1 %

1.00 kg Gladfield Manuka Smoked Malt (4.0 EBC) Grain 4 16.5 %

1.00 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 5 16.5 %

1.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 6 16.5 %

0.50 kg Brown Malt (Simpsons) (295.5 EBC) Grain 7 8.3 %

0.35 kg Caraaroma (Weyermann) (350.7 EBC) Grain 8 5.8 %

0.20 kg Gladfield Dark Chocolate Malt (1300.0 EB Grain 9 3.3 %

33.00 g 007 [14.60 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 10 51.0 IBUs

 

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Very interesting malt bill. cool

 

Hopefully Chad spots the post. I think he's used smoked malt grain before? I'm not certain' date=' but he may have even smoked some of his own? [img']unsure[/img]

 

I don't brew many darks, so consequently I haven't brewed a beer using smoked malt before.

 

All I would say is you don't need Rye malt in everything. tongue

 

Good luck with the brew. wink

 

Lusty.

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Stout is on. No Chill as usual.

 

Recipe: Rye Stout

Brewer: Grumpy

Style: Foreign Extra Stout

TYPE: All Grain

 

Recipe Specifications

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Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l

Estimated OG: 1.065 SG

Estimated Color: 85.6 EBC

Estimated IBU: 57.1 IBUs

 

Ingredients:

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU

3.50 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -

1.50 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -

3.00 kg Pale Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.9 EBC) Grain 3 44.4 %

1.75 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 4 25.9 %

1.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 5 14.8 %

0.30 kg Caraaroma (Weyermann) (350.7 EBC) Grain 6 4.4 %

0.25 kg Brown Malt (Simpsons) (295.5 EBC) Grain 7 3.7 %

0.25 kg Gladfield Dark Chocolate Malt (1300.0 EB Grain 8 3.7 %

0.20 kg Gladfield Roast Barley (1450.0 EBC) Grain 9 3.0 %

45.00 g Chinook [12.70 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 10 57.1 IBUs

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Well I had an early taste of both and both are stunning.

 

lol

 

Happy for you Ben.

 

I have never used rye but I see that my LHBS has started carrying it. What does it bring to a stout? Is it most suited to darker ales? Cheers! -Christina.

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G'day Ben.

 

I'm glad the two stouts have turned out well. happy On paper they always looked full of complexity.

 

Chinook also has a nice spicy tone to it. wink

 

Good stuff!

 

I'm pretty sure Glen Campbell had a hit song named after you, "Rye Malt Cowboy"? tongue

 

biggrin

 

Cheers,

 

Lusty.

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Ive never brewed with Chinook before,

 

Anyone done a single hop?

 

Ide be interested in doing a smash with this hop,

 

Im sure a little care is needed to let it be presented in a subtle way!

 

perhaps a small additions at 60- 15 and some @ flame out followed by a dry hop

 

 

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I haven't used it as a single hop all the way through the boil, but I have used it as a standalone late/dry hop addition with Magnum for bittering early, in a pale ale. Wasn't a huge fan of it to be honest. It seems to work better in conjunction with something else like Cascade or maybe Centennial.

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What was your recipe Kelsey>?

 

I would personaly plan a bitterness boil followed by a follow up small flavour addition to get 30 IBUs if going single malt SMASH

 

Based on what your saying you may have over done your boil additions,

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