Coopers Sparkling Ale recipe error consequences

[aussiewasp]

Hi,

I made a batch of the Coopers Sparkling Ale.

14 days fermentation, then after 14 days in the bottle I opened a couple.

Both had little carbonation, taste was quite heavy.

Decided to get another batch on the go and realised that I had not added the required 300g of white sugar, BUT 3 KILOGRAMS.

I am thinking of hanging onto half the batch to see what happens after a few more weeks.

Is there any point?

 

TIA

James

[Classic Brewing Co]

30 minutes ago, jpd1009 said:

Hi,

I made a batch of the Coopers Sparkling Ale.

14 days fermentation, then after 14 days in the bottle I opened a couple.

Both had little carbonation, taste was quite heavy.

Decided to get another batch on the go and realised that I had not added the required 300g of white sugar, BUT 3 KILOGRAMS.

I am thinking of hanging onto half the batch to see what happens after a few more weeks.

Is there any point?

 

TIA

James

Hi James,

Wow 3kg, I am thinking it will probably get a bit heavier as time goes by, I would be carful opening the bottles, I assume they were PET? If they were glass, I would be very careful.

I wouldn't expect the taste to improve, did you take any hydrometer readings, that should have given you an indication on the fermentation/carbonation.

The yeast would have been working overtime trying to keep up with the fermenting. The ABV would have increased but it will taste sweet/cidery.

 

Cheers. 

Edited November 23, 2022 by Classic Brewing Co

[Pale Man]

3 kg of white sugar ...........you've made rum!!!!

[Pale Man]

I shouldn't laugh but I find that amusing.

[Cheap Charlie]

Keep it going! I will be interested to see the result.

[Pale Man]

I punched the numbers into Brewfather for a 23 litre brew. If your yeast attenuates fully you'll end  up with a 10% ABV beast 

Probably be very cidery, but what the hell, drink it anyway.

[aussiewasp]

12 hours ago, Pale Man said:

I punched the numbers into Brewfather for a 23 litre brew. If your yeast attenuates fully you'll end  up with a 10% ABV beast 

Probably be very cidery, but what the hell, drink it anyway.

Yeah, however with bugger all carbonation after 14 days in the bottle, I'm not sure the yeast is working.

[DavidM]

10 hours ago, jpd1009 said:

Yeah, however with bugger all carbonation after 14 days in the bottle, I'm not sure the yeast is working.

Big beers, 10%ABV, need longer to Carbonate.

If you don't need the bottles, let is sit for another Month at Least.

Not saying it will be any good... but it might.

[aussiewasp]

13 hours ago, DavidM said:

Big beers, 10%ABV, need longer to Carbonate.

If you don't need the bottles, let is sit for another Month at Least.

Not saying it will be any good... but it might.

My thoughts exactly, I will report back to this post in 1 month.

[Pale Man]

On 11/24/2022 at 8:39 AM, jpd1009 said:

Yeah, however with bugger all carbonation after 14 days in the bottle, I'm not sure the yeast is working.

If it fermented your wort, it should carbonate your bottles. Unless its died of toxic sugar shock 

[thebeerpig]

5 hours ago, Pale Man said:

If it fermented your wort, it should carbonate your bottles. Unless its died of toxic sugar shock 

I think a lot of beer yeasts harri-karri when they produce more than 9 percent alcohol. It might pay to mix a wine or champagne yeast into your brew if you are still having trouble getting the bottles to carbonate.

[aussiewasp]

UPDATE after 3-4 weeks extra in the bottle:

No significant carbonation.

Hard to pick the flavour, not totally unpleasant.

Sitting at around 10%+ so I guess the yeast committed suicide.

Down the sink it goes.

I now tell myself what I tell others, "READ THE F%$@ING RECIPE.

[Uhtred Of Beddanburg]

57 minutes ago, jpd1009 said:

UPDATE after 3-4 weeks extra in the bottle:

No significant carbonation.

Hard to pick the flavour, not totally unpleasant.

Sitting at around 10%+ so I guess the yeast committed suicide.

Down the sink it goes.

I now tell myself what I tell others, "READ THE F%$@ING RECIPE.

Mix it with 50% lemonade or something and put up with no carbonation. I have done this with a batch I was not happy with.

[Malter White]

16 minutes ago, Uhtred Of Beddanburg said:

Mix it with 50% lemonade or something and put up with no carbonation. I have done this with a batch I was not happy with.

This was my go-to procedure in my early days of brewing before the internet and when I had no idea. My beers usually turned out poor, probably due to temperature fluctuations and less than satisfactory hygiene practices. My remedy was to brew stouts only and add a dash of lemonade. The lemonade hid some of my brewing sins.

[Uhtred Of Beddanburg]

@Malter White yeah I say don't chuck it unless absolutely necessary learn from it and make it better. Just an option for him it's most likely already gone.