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Hey all. I’m an absolute beginner and am just reaching the end of my second Coopers DIY brew. I’m about to bottle and, after tasting, reckon this brew is a bit too sweet. Any advice as to how to reduce this? Is it a simple matter of only adding one carbonation drop instead of two? Or will this just reduce its secondary fermentation and result in a less heady brew? Any advice gratefully accepted. John. 

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20 hours ago, Jakinoz said:

Hey all. I’m an absolute beginner and am just reaching the end of my second Coopers DIY brew. I’m about to bottle and, after tasting, reckon this brew is a bit too sweet. Any advice as to how to reduce this? Is it a simple matter of only adding one carbonation drop instead of two? Or will this just reduce its secondary fermentation and result in a less heady brew? Any advice gratefully accepted. John. 

Just wondering if it is actually finished or if it's stalled. What are the gravity readings? What sort of beer was it? Just a kit 'n' kilo?

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7 minutes ago, Jakinoz said:

Yeah, just a kit. And it is the Real Ale pack. SG intial was 34 and today’s is 8 for the second day, so bottling today. Tastes fine apart from that sweetness. 🤷🏽‍♂️

It shouldn't taste too sweet at that low a final gravity. 

There is a possibility your hydrometer is faulty.

How did the first brew taste at bottling time? It will develop a bit after a couple of weeks in the bottle

 

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First brew not as sweet as this one, but it was a different kit - it was the lager pack that came with the initial full kit. I’m gonna put the sweetness of this new brew down to simply being a different type of beer and bottle away with two carbonation drops, as per. See what happens. 

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You said you tasted as about to bottle - so it is flat beer that hasn't conditioned. Finished SG of 8 (1.008 I assume frmo 1.034 seems fine). Bottle up with 2 carb drops to 750ml - 1 won't be enough and give it time to condition. Carbonation changes the taste a bit, and time also does, so 2 weeks to carb up, taste, but it should improve for a few weeks after that.  Then make a judgment. 

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Hi all, reviving this one as I have just had a very similar experience. So looking for advice !

Novice and completed my first brew with a real ale kit (thought it was going to be lager, and it was date expired) didn't note down my OG, but the SG remained steady at 1.030. Bottled with two carb drops and stored for two weeks. Tried to control room/brew temperature, but at the time the weather changed and it did slightly drop in temperature, from around 22C to 18C. Slightly cooler than instructions.

Chucked a couple in the fridge, for a few days and had the first beer last night. Was almost sweeter than when I tried the brew at bottling. Colour was quite dark and rich.

Where did I go wrong with this? or is this a 'it is what it is' case. Thanks in advance

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23 minutes ago, Paulsbeers said:

Hi all, reviving this one as I have just had a very similar experience. So looking for advice !

Novice and completed my first brew with a real ale kit (thought it was going to be lager, and it was date expired) didn't note down my OG, but the SG remained steady at 1.030. Bottled with two carb drops and stored for two weeks. Tried to control room/brew temperature, but at the time the weather changed and it did slightly drop in temperature, from around 22C to 18C. Slightly cooler than instructions.

Chucked a couple in the fridge, for a few days and had the first beer last night. Was almost sweeter than when I tried the brew at bottling. Colour was quite dark and rich.

Where did I go wrong with this? or is this a 'it is what it is' case. Thanks in advance

Hi @Paulsbeers The Real Ale would have been fine at those temperatures although maintaining a constant level is recommended.

Regarding sweetness, if you used the kit ingredients & the FG was around 1.012 or lower it should be OK. Did you bottle in Stubbies or Longnecks?

Leave it for a bit longer & try another.

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1 hour ago, Paulsbeers said:

Hi all, reviving this one as I have just had a very similar experience. So looking for advice !

Novice and completed my first brew with a real ale kit (thought it was going to be lager, and it was date expired) didn't note down my OG, but the SG remained steady at 1.030. Bottled with two carb drops and stored for two weeks. Tried to control room/brew temperature, but at the time the weather changed and it did slightly drop in temperature, from around 22C to 18C. Slightly cooler than instructions.

Chucked a couple in the fridge, for a few days and had the first beer last night. Was almost sweeter than when I tried the brew at bottling. Colour was quite dark and rich.

Where did I go wrong with this? or is this a 'it is what it is' case. Thanks in advance

How long did it ferment for? 

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3 hours ago, Classic Brewing Co said:

Hi @Paulsbeers The Real Ale would have been fine at those temperatures although maintaining a constant level is recommended.

Regarding sweetness, if you used the kit ingredients & the FG was around 1.012 or lower it should be OK. Did you bottle in Stubbies or Longnecks?

Leave it for a bit longer & try another.

It was the plastic 740ml long necks. 

I'll leave them another week or two and see how it is then. 

Thanks for the advice

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Just now, Paulsbeers said:

It was the plastic 740ml long necks. 

I'll leave them another week or two and see how it is then. 

Thanks for the advice

You will probably find each week it will improve, for what it's worth I only ever used white sugar for priming & I had much better results over carb drops - a teaspoon is about 4.1gms.

Glass bottles are much better than the PET's.

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20 minutes ago, Paulsbeers said:

It was 8 days in the end

Ok, 1030 seems a bit high for a FG. Hopefully it works out with more age. But if u say its very sweet, prob wasn't done fermenting. What yeast did u use? Expired kit yeast? 

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4 hours ago, Paulsbeers said:

Hi all, reviving this one as I have just had a very similar experience. So looking for advice !

Novice and completed my first brew with a real ale kit (thought it was going to be lager, and it was date expired) didn't note down my OG, but the SG remained steady at 1.030. Bottled with two carb drops and stored for two weeks. Tried to control room/brew temperature, but at the time the weather changed and it did slightly drop in temperature, from around 22C to 18C. Slightly cooler than instructions.

Chucked a couple in the fridge, for a few days and had the first beer last night. Was almost sweeter than when I tried the brew at bottling. Colour was quite dark and rich.

Where did I go wrong with this? or is this a 'it is what it is' case. Thanks in advance

It sounds like a stalled brew. If it tastes sweet and your FG is 1.030 it probably means the yeast hasn't consumed all the sugars. If that's the case it's a good thing you used PET bottles. If the yeast wakes up again and it was in glass you could end up with exploding bottles. Depending on the type of brew, most will finish in the 1.000 to 1.012 range.
The out of date tin shouldn't be a problem but the yeast life is much shorter and could be the reason for the stalled ferment.

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33 minutes ago, Paulsbeers said:

It was 8 days in the end

Another thing, you will prob get gushers in a few more weeks, so open the bottles slowly, place them in the empty sink when opening. I remember in my early days I opened one at my table literally shot out 3 quarters of the beer in my face amd all over the table 😂 i was im shock haha. It's all part of the learning phase mate and will only make you more knowledgeable next time around.  If u so buy an expired kit again, maybe pick up a fresh pack of yeast to throw in, and give it a few more days fermentation time. I try to leave it 14 days most times before bottle

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1 hour ago, Pints said:

Another thing, you will prob get gushers in a few more weeks, so open the bottles slowly, place them in the empty sink when opening. I remember in my early days I opened one at my table literally shot out 3 quarters of the beer in my face amd all over the table 😂 i was im shock haha. I

Was this before or after you became a bukkake fetishist, Pints?🤣

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On 6/13/2023 at 4:06 PM, Pints said:

Ok, 1030 seems a bit high for a FG. Hopefully it works out with more age. But if u say its very sweet, prob wasn't done fermenting. What yeast did u use? Expired kit yeast? 

Yes the expired kit yeast. Reason - thought I'd do one by the book before I buy in some yeast

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On 6/13/2023 at 4:08 PM, Malter White said:

It sounds like a stalled brew. If it tastes sweet and your FG is 1.030 it probably means the yeast hasn't consumed all the sugars. If that's the case it's a good thing you used PET bottles. If the yeast wakes up again and it was in glass you could end up with exploding bottles. Depending on the type of brew, most will finish in the 1.000 to 1.012 range.
The out of date tin shouldn't be a problem but the yeast life is much shorter and could be the reason for the stalled ferment.

That sounds a good explanation. Next move will be to buy in a good quality yeast.

Thanks

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