Pitch1988 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Hi all I’m going to bottle some Draught on Saturday. I have used PET bottles in the past but I am going to try glass bottles this time around. Question is what would be the best method for carbonation either drops or bulk priming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 You can dial in your carb levels better with bulk prining, ease of dosing, carb drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 They'll both work. I've switched to bulk, because I have lots of different sized bottles, so it's way easier. I found the drops too low carb, and inconsistent. Others have had no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch1988 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Captain!! said: You can dial in your carb levels better with bulk prining, ease of dosing, carb drops Would you use dextrose or brewing sugar to bulk prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch1988 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lab Cat said: They'll both work. I've switched to bulk, because I have lots of different sized bottles, so it's way easier. I found the drops too low carb, and inconsistent. Others have had no issues. I’m either gonna use 640ml or 750ml glass how much would go in each bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) I'd keep it the same for both bottles - 2 drops in each. Not much diff between the sizes to matter IMO. One drop will be too little for the 640. I dosed my 500ml and 400ml Grolsch with the 500ml measure on my sugar scoop. If you get a sugar scoop, dose them both with the 750ml measure. Edited May 19, 2020 by Lab Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Pitch1988 said: Would you use dextrose or brewing sugar to bulk prime? Same thing as I understand it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 You can use any sugar, even LDME but the calcs for amount of carbonation will change. You could use darker sugars or golden syrup and get the carb as well as some flavour. I used in bottle for too long - then I started BP in a second FV and wondered WTF I had been doing all this time with sugar scoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch1988 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Journeyman said: You can use any sugar, even LDME but the calcs for amount of carbonation will change. You could use darker sugars or golden syrup and get the carb as well as some flavour. I used in bottle for too long - then I started BP in a second FV and wondered WTF I had been doing all this time with sugar scoops. Could I combine ldme dextrose and golden syrup and use the same method to boil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Pitch1988 said: Could I combine ldme dextrose and golden syrup and use the same method to boil? Yes, I can't see why not. I'd stop the boil as soon as you get bubbles though - GS goes to cracking point quite quickly - I used it a couple of times to make honey comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch1988 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, Journeyman said: Yes, I can't see why not. I'd stop the boil as soon as you get bubbles though - GS goes to cracking point quite quickly - I used it a couple of times to make honey comb. How much ldme golden syrup and dextrose would I need with water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB7 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Lab Cat said: They'll both work. I've switched to bulk, because I have lots of different sized bottles, so it's way easier. I found the drops too low carb, and inconsistent. Others have had no issues. I'm not a fan of the drops either. Low carbonation vs white sugar & pricy for what they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, Pitch1988 said: How much ldme golden syrup and dextrose would I need with water? Enough so it's a liquid - you want it to mix easily with the incoming brew. The calcs for how much carb you get you would need to research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Journeyman said: The calcs for how much carb you get you would need to research. I'd stick with sugar. Far easier to work out. 150g in 23l is a typical sugar scoop dose. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, Pitch1988 said: How much ldme golden syrup and dextrose would I need with water? Never tried a mixed priming charge to get my bubbles but you can try This to get your calcs, it will easily handle different sugars. Like others I prefer to bulk prime , mostly due to different sized bottles on the few batches I actually bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB05 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Thank you for posting this information - really helpful. Mark D Pirate - thank you for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Another quick and cheap option many overlook is sugar cubes. Each cube is 4.5g, one per 750ml bottle is equivalent to 140g table sugar in a batch (2.5volsCO2). That might be a bit low carb for some styles but I generally find it's plenty for the beers I usually brew. Edited July 24, 2020 by BlackSands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 hours ago, BlackSands said: Another quick and cheap option many overlook is sugar cubes. Each cube is 4.5g, one per 750ml bottle is equivalent to 140g table sugar in a batch (2.5volsCO2). That might be a bit low carb for some styles but I generally find it's plenty for the beers I usually brew. I used to use 2 carb drops per 740ml bottle but found the carbonation a bit low for my taste. So now I use one sugar cube plus one carb drop. Only a slight increase but noticeable to the end result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, MUZZY said: I used to use 2 carb drops per 740ml bottle but found the carbonation a bit low for my taste. So now I use one sugar cube plus one carb drop. Only a slight increase but noticeable to the end result. MUZZY likes it FIZZY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BlackSands said: MUZZY likes it FIZZY I drank megaswill for a long time before I started home brewing. I guess you get accustomed to having bubbles. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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