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Hi all,

Just looking at Mr Beer on the coopers site. It doesnt say whether to use the unhopped malt extract satchels in the tin description (where as all the coopers tin descriptions say use 1x enhancer 2 etc etc)

If i get some of the mr beer tins do i need to get the UME satchels as well? and how do i know which one to use with each can? https://www.diybeer.com/au/brewing-extracts/craft-series.html

 

(side note -  I also notice all the recipes that use mr beer have a satchel listed, as well as other ingredients)https://www.diybeer.com/au/recipe/zaphod-s-ipa.html

 

Cheers

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You can happily brew the Mr Beer cans on their own if you want. You will notice the recipes that use the extras have an increased %ABV, and the extra liquid malt also adds something to the recipe such as colour and flavour. That, plus some extra hops changes how the base can tastes. It's completely up to you how far you want to go. 👍

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46 minutes ago, Farlow said:

Hi all,

Just looking at Mr Beer on the coopers site. It doesnt say whether to use the unhopped malt extract satchels in the tin description (where as all the coopers tin descriptions say use 1x enhancer 2 etc etc)

If i get some of the mr beer tins do i need to get the UME satchels as well? and how do i know which one to use with each can? https://www.diybeer.com/au/brewing-extracts/craft-series.html

 

(side note -  I also notice all the recipes that use mr beer have a satchel listed, as well as other ingredients)https://www.diybeer.com/au/recipe/zaphod-s-ipa.html

 

Cheers

You do not have to use the UME in the Mr Beer kits.  A Mr Beer kit on its own brewed to 8.5L will come to around 5% ABV.  Any of the Coopers 1.7kg kits brewed to 23L without any extra fermentables will finish around 2.5% ABV.  Therefore the Mr Beer kits are pretty good on their own.  Whereas the Coopers kits on their own a pretty weak and really need more fermentables.

I believe that Coopers bought the Mr Beer company at some stage.  So Coopers were not involved in designing how the Mr Beer kits needed to be mixed/brewed.  Because Mr Beer customers were used to brewing a certain way, I am guessing Coopers saw no need to change that method for risk of loosing customers.

Of course you can add the various UME pouches to the Mr Beer cans for different recipes and beer styles.  The ABV goes up to about 6%, which is more in the "craft beer" range.

The same can be said for using different dry and liquid extracts with the regular Coopers cans to create different styles.  The Coopers system allows you to do that without significantly upping the ABV, beause you need the fermentables anyway.  The "flavour" is completely up to your imagination.

The following link is a good resource for looking up the different recipes; sorting for ABV, bitterness (IBU), volume, etc; and filtering for specific cans types.  But I am biased because I keep the spreadsheet up to date.

 

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On 4/12/2020 at 1:42 PM, Shamus O'Sean said:

@Instigator answered this much more succinctly than I could 😁

 

I often find myself thinking that about your posts. 👍🤣

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4 hours ago, Instigator said:

I often find myself thinking that about your posts. 👍🤣

What can I say.  I am a detail guy.😁👍

Edited by Shamus O'Sean

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mr-beer-craft-starter-kit-all-in-one-beg

I actually bought one of these kits for giggles because it was $32 on ebay and the bottles and pale ale can are worth $28 retail so for $4 extra why the hell not ?

The dinky plastic barrel didn't fill me with confidence and when the tap broke on first use (snapped at the threads) I was ready to throw it out but I happened to have a tap off an old Stefani water filter that fit perfectly so I brewed the Pale Ale and it brewed fine.  Then I brewed an Amber Ale without any dramas either. 

It is a 2.5 gallon (8.5L) fermenter, same as the Coopers craft fermenter but its configuration is more squat - it is longer than it is high and it fits on the top shelf of my brew fridge over the top of the Coopers craft fermenter so I can brew split batches at once which is really interesting and taste testing the same beer with different variations is a lot of fun.  I don't regret the purchase, despite the bad tap.  I just wish it was a little more robust - it has a sticker on it warning me not to put hot (60ºC) water in the barrel without first adding 4 litres of cold water  because of 'thermal shock' (i.e. it might crack open and spill hot wort everywhere).

Now, a confession.  As I was basically mucking around I cold crashed the fermenter in the fridge, pulled off a bottle and force carbonated it using a Soda King (like a Sodastream but Chinese rather than Isreali).   It worked a treat but as I drank my suds the thought did cross my mind that I would get thrown out of the union if the boys on the forum got wind of it  😅

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5 hours ago, James of Bayswater said:

pulled off a bottle and force carbonated it using a Soda King

All good JoB! How the hell do you think I get an early taste of my brews!

I’ve actually heard of a few guys doing it in different FB groups.

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It works.  No problem.... except that as a lazy brewer I am inclined to just leave the fermenter in the fridge and draught off it.  When I finally got around to bottling I only got 6.  The other five had been Soda Kinged.  😄

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