King Ruddager Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So I'm finding that, come the next morning, I can always tell when I've had a home brew, even if it's only one or two! Normal? Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 What temperature do you ferment at? Brewing at high temps can produce fusel alcohol which may contribute to headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Acetone and Methanol can also be produced when the yeast is stressed by the high temps or excessive sugar levels, which would definitely add to headaches/hangovers, even in minute amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I used to get headaches from my first 2 brews which kit and kilo one was be1 with a half a kilo of extra dextrose, However since I switched to using dry malt and no more than 300g of dextrose I just wake up still pissed the next morning which is how i am when i drink commercial coopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Been fermenting at about 22 max. When you guys say "high temperatures", how high do you mean? Perhaps I should try different water. I've been using spring water, but a very cheap brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I use filtered tap water no issues there I wouldn't go any higher than 22 degree's try to aim for around 18 - 21 max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 What ingredients are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Been fermenting at about 22 max. When you guys say "high temperatures", how high do you mean? Perhaps I should try different water. I've been using spring water, but a very cheap brand. depends on the yeast you are using really... it also depends on the ingredients to a large degree as well.. as suggested above, higher temps that the yeast like and or an excess of simple sugars will produce beer that 'hangs' Its going to be temps or ingredients. ferment temps for ales is commonly found to be ideal at about 18, a little lower depending on the yeast and flavour profile desired. Yob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I wouldn't think that 22 is "high", more like 27+ would be depending on the type of yeast. Happy healthy yeast is always the key to a good clean ferment. pH and water hardness could also be issues, but these things way out of my league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 As Yob says, 22C IS high but depending on what yeast you use. i.e. fermenting a Lager at 22C is just not on in my books. Some people have a reaction to home brews including wine which they receive headaches from. It can be something as simple as the cleaning regime. eg. using sodium metabisulphite can cause reactions with some people as can other ingredients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 When I said 22, I meant that that was the highest temperature it reached. Mine have spent most their time around the 18-20 mark, and when I did a lager it was down around 16. The ingredients I've used so far have all been Coopers ones. Hmmm, well, I'll see what happens. I think so far everything I've had has been from new bottles (which I only rinsed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Perhaps it is an intolerance to yeast. Did you previously drink beer with a lot of yeast sediment or was it mainly the filtered variety? I really have no idea, just throwing out options. If you use quality ingredients, pitch sufficient healthy yeast and ferment at appropriate temperatures then it shouldn't be the brewing process causing your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If its none of the above I'd be checking the pH of the water you are using. Especially since its bottled. If its low this can cause similar problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It has something to do with ingredients Gavin. Even water is an ingredient[biggrin] Start changing things in your brewing. First change your water (maybe even try tap water instead of the spring water) if it still persists, start changing malts, sugars etc. I sometimes have this issue when using highly bittered kits. I put it down to the isohops that they contain. Don't know if that is what the issue is or not. In saying that I started putting my headaches down to either the isohops or sugar before i started brewing because the same thing happens when I drink Tooheys, VB, Carlton etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 It has something to do with ingredients Gavin. Even water is an ingredient[biggrin] of course I was just stating how water could cause fusel problems. Checking the pH will let you know. A lot of beginner homebrewers don't realise how important the pH is. there is even a small possibility it could be gluten related.. Its possible that there is more in your home brew then commercial beers. Does the headache come when drinking unfiltered craft beers as well? could be a sign of some sort of gluten intolerance. Small chance but just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just because the ingredients you have used so far have been Coopers ingredients, doesn't mean to say that you don't have some sort of reaction with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimA3 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I've found since only drinking homebrew I no longer get headaches at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanS8 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I'm with Tim. Bugger all headaches since i started brewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wal Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I'm with Tim. Bugger all headaches since i started brewing. I'm with you blokes, don't have any problems at all. Mind you, in the morning I might report differently....celebrating 7 in a row for Queensland...!!! [happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 celebrating 7 in a row for Queensland...!!! Where are the moderators on this site? Those type of offensive comments should be removed [rightful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm considering changing my allegiance to QLD. Not because they keep winning though but rather because the XXXX logos on their uniforms are a bit more discreet than the highly offensive (and huge) VB logos desecrating the chest of the NSW jerseys [pinched] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Traitor..... [annoyed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The Only homebrews that gave me a hang over/headache were my first kit and kilo of sugar attempts quality ingredients like malt and small amounts of dextrose make good beer plus I often just wake up still pissed. If i were to drink crap like VB or Tooheys i would wake up feeling like right shite however commercial coopers and coopers home brew with malt and hops wake up fine or partly pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 I don't think I've got an intolerance to yeast or gluten - I've drank plenty of pales in the past. Might just take a wait and see approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Do you have a naggy wife? I find dealing with that sometimes gives me a headache [innocent] Perhaps it isn't beer related at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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