Pints Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Mates, I want to try my hand at boiling some hops. I have a Aus pale ale tin that is my base, with 1kg DME. I've been reading and educating myself about it all and have come to this: ( all hops are local to South Africa ) 25g Southern passion for 30 min boil for adding bitterness mainly Then I have 2 other varieties I will use for dry hopping, total of about 60 - 80g To 21L I do want a nice bitter bite, but nothing too big. Any thoughts? Edited July 28, 2021 by PintsAtMeLocal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pints Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Brew done hehehehe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I hope you boiled them in wort and not plain water... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pints Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: I hope you boiled them in wort and not plain water... Added 250g DME 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Excellent. What is the AA content of those hops? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pints Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Excellent. What is the AA content of those hops? 11.4% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Should get a good whack of bitterness, hopefully it's not too much 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pints Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Should get a good whack of bitterness, hopefully it's not too much Cheers mate haha let's see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) I have started to freeze my hop pellets since learning that's a good idea from one of the threads here. What I've found however is that the hops when added to the wort as before don't seem to have the same effect. The dry hop addition in particular doesn't have the same level of intensity as before when I stored them in the fridge. But what is really evident is that the head retention has vanished. This is across several recipes which I've done many times before with very good results with head retention. I'm meticulous with cleaning the beer equipment and always make sure my glasses are clean. The only other thing which I've changed is the yeast addition, I used to dry pitch packet yeast but have more recently been using a slurry from previous brews. I'm wondering if any of this may contribute to what's happening with my recent brews. All the brewing products I've used have been well within the Use by dates. Edited December 27, 2021 by Mickep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, Mickep said: I have started to freeze my hop pellets since learning that's a good idea from one of the threads here. What I've found however is that the hops when added to the wort as before don't seem to have the same effect. The dry hop addition in particular doesn't have the same level of intensity as before when I stored them in the fridge. But what is really evident is that the head retention has vanished. This is across several recipes which I've done many times before with very good results with head retention. I'm meticulous with cleaning the beer equipment and always make sure my glasses are clean. The only other thing which I've changed is the yeast addition, I used to dry pitch packet yeast but have more recently been using a slurry from previous brews. I'm wondering if any of this may contribute to what's happening with my recent brews. All the brewing products I've used have been well within the Use by dates. I cannot say that I have any issues with head retention using frozen hops and I keep all my hops in the freezer. How are you keeping them? I vacuum pack my hops to keep as much oxygen away from them as possible. I even double seal the bags as I have had the odd one fill with air after a few weeks. It seems to work fine for me. Some hops I buy in 500g packs and this is the only way to keep them "fresh". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussiekraut said: I cannot say that I have any issues with head retention using frozen hops and I keep all my hops in the freezer. How are you keeping them? I vacuum pack my hops to keep as much oxygen away from them as possible. I even double seal the bags as I have had the odd one fill with air after a few weeks. It seems to work fine for me. Some hops I buy in 500g packs and this is the only way to keep them "fresh". Thanks Aussie for the reply, once I've opened them in their foil packaging I store them in same and wrap with rubber bands and then put them into zip lock bags and then into the freezer. The bags are airtight. I'm assuming that's keeping them away from the oxygen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I haven't noticed any issues like that with frozen hops either. Decent suppliers store them in the freezer prior to purchase anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Yes freezer. Never had an issue. Well, not with the frozen hops anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Thanks everyone for replying. Could it be that I've re-used the slurry too many times? I mean it still races through to FG, but is it possible that over use of the slurry has seen it have its day.... I'm on about 6-7 re-uses and probably 6 months on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Never had an issue with frozen hops and I very much doubt it's the cause of your head retention problems. Reusing a slurry many times does increase the chance of infection. You would probably taste it though whether it be off taste or it's something in there that has dropped the pH significantly. I'd start with a new packet though and see if that does the trick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Greenyinthewestofsydney said: Never had an issue with frozen hops and I very much doubt it's the cause of your head retention problems. Reusing a slurry many times does increase the chance of infection. You would probably taste it though whether it be off taste or it's something in there that has dropped the pH significantly. I'd start with a new packet though and see if that does the trick. Nah, no infection. Absolutely positive of that. Maybe it's time to rest the slurry and re introduce a new dry packet of yeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 5:40 AM, Otto Von Blotto said: I hope you boiled them in wort and not plain water... What is the advantage of boiling hops in wort ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, DavidM said: What is the advantage of boiling hops in wort ? Boiling in plain water tends to produce pretty awful flavours, too much bitterness, I'd have to look it up again, can't exactly remember the reason but it's flavour based. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 2:44 PM, Greenyinthewestofsydney said: Never had an issue with frozen hops and I very much doubt it's the cause of your head retention problems. Reusing a slurry many times does increase the chance of infection. You would probably taste it though whether it be off taste or it's something in there that has dropped the pH significantly. I'd start with a new packet though and see if that does the trick. Thanks @Greenyinthewestofsydney. I'll turf the slurry as you've suggested and start with some fresh stuff. cheers mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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