Commercial Beer Ingredients ?

[Classic Brewing Co]

1 minute ago, Journeyman said:

If you followed all the 'experts' the only thing OK to consume is water... and not too much of that or you drown.  

They slammed fats and got people consuming margarine - you don't want to know where that came from - and promoted sugar, then added all kinds of chemicals to cans, packets and processed foods but it turns out what's bad for you is sugar and carbs. (as well as the numbers they put into stuff)

The one booming industry for university experts seems to be making headlines. They will say and do anything to get their name on a paper and in the papers. (aside: How much longer can we say, "in the papers" before we get blank looks from the young?  )

For several decades now I have trouble putting out a full bin for garbage - even at once every 2 weeks, it's usually not even half full - because we eat natural foods, hardly any packets or cans and they don't make the waste levels the processed foods do. I recently had a full battery of bloods done and at 66 yo the Doc sat looking through them making comments of, "excellent, excellent, that's great, brilliant" all down the list. I'm not a health nut so I put it down to staying away from 'experts' and their advice and buying fresh and uncooked.

That's another good thing about home brew - we KNOW what goes into our beers.

I agree, having a background in Advertising I cannot help criticising the packaging/advertising material that we are faced with in the Supermarkets. Not that I buy any of their frozen processed so-called healthy junk. If you notice some of the trolleys you will see biscuits, cakes, soft drink, confectionary, frozen meals, tins of this, bowls of that & so on. Hardly ever do you see healthy stuff.

Like yourself I have always eaten healthy. Most of my shopping is lean meats, seafood, chicken, heaps of fresh vegetables, rice/legumes/pasta & fruit etc.

I see these little old ladies winging about the cost of everything after paying for their handful of packaged stuff & head to the service counter & spend $200 on cigarettes !!

There are exceptions of course but if you read everything on the signs & packets you would be led to believe that's all you need.

With our home brew we control what goes in there.

Cheers.

[Aussiekraut]

On 4/17/2021 at 2:14 PM, Pickles Jones said:

I agree, I find most of the old school beers now are brewed for a different market and age demographic and with the ABV being constantly being adjusted usually down to keep the excise bill down they don't taste the same.

Breweries aim for the mid/mass market where nobody really dislikes their beer and nobody really likes it, but they still drink it, providing it is in fashion.

The problem with the mega swill is simply that it is made by accountants, not brewers. It's not about the customer or the beer, it is about the share holder. 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Aussiekraut

[Aussiekraut]

On 4/17/2021 at 6:05 PM, Green Blob said:

I put ascorbic acid in my brew water. 

That sounds so nasty but really is just trusty old Vitamin C 

[Classic Brewing Co]

1 hour ago, Aussiekraut said:

The problem with the mega swill is simply that it is made by accountants, not brewers. It's not about the customer or the beer, it is about the share holder. 

I totally agree, they are more worried about market share, profitability, media feedback etc rather than produce a quality, affordable beer that that appeals to the masses.

[Aussiekraut]

54 minutes ago, CLASSIC said:

I totally agree, they are more worried about market share, profitability, media feedback etc rather than produce a quality, affordable beer that that appeals to the masses.

I was really naughty the other day. I had a Great Northern add pop up in my Facebook feed about winning BCF vouchers when you buy certain cartons of Great Northern. So I asked in a post whether it's possible to win these vouchers buying proper beer, or only when you buy Britta water  Didn't get a reply 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Aussiekraut

[Classic Brewing Co]

52 minutes ago, CLASSIC said:

I totally agree, they are more worried about market share, profitability, media feedback etc rather than produce a quality, affordable beer that that appeals to the masses.

@Aussiekraut  If you don't mind me asking the background image behind your profile pic, is that a place of birth, favorite place or something ?  just wondering.

I find the images & scenes of Germany, Eastern Europe etc fascinating. The closest we have is Hahndorf in the Adelaide Hills which is great anyway.

Cheers.

[Aussiekraut]

2 minutes ago, CLASSIC said:

@Aussiekraut  If you don't mind me asking the background image behind your profile pic, is that a place of birth, favorite place or something ?  just wondering.

I find the images & scenes of Germany, Eastern Europe etc fascinating. The closest we have is Hahndorf in the Adelaide Hills which is great anyway.

Cheers.

It is a small Bavarian town called Wasserburg am Inn. I was born and grew up there. 

[Classic Brewing Co]

Just now, Aussiekraut said:

It is a small Bavarian town called Wasserburg am Inn. I was born and grew up there. 

OK great, it is good to hang on to your roots,  well you know what I mean.   

[Barramullafella]

Great Northern uses a similar, if not the same, recipe as Cairns Draught. The Cairns Brewery was bought out by CUB and then sometime down the track the brewery was closed. Cairns Draught was very popular with the older set in the area at the time. 

[Classic Brewing Co]

Just now, Barramullafella said:

Great Northern uses a similar, if not the same, recipe as Cairns Draught. The Cairns Brewery was bought out by CUB and then sometime down the track the brewery was closed. Cairns Draught was very popular with the older set in the area at the time. 

Sorry mate, my personal opinion is Great Northern jus dosen't just quite cut it - you & I can make better beer than that.

[Worts and all]

On 4/17/2021 at 7:02 PM, Hairy said:

Which ingredient gives VB the urine flavour?

It’s the beer,O Hirsute one! Just the beer.. I do try to be cheerful on my weekly visit to the local, as one does of course. I find it rather dispiriting,however, when I look around me and see an alarming proportion of patrons sucking this mediocre liquid ,or the one with too many XXs, from a can. Meanwhile, behind the bar, equipped with all the finest dispensing equipment, with sparklingly clean glasses at the ready, stand the friendly, efficient staff ready to pour a delicious ,attractive brew of your choice, with its beautiful foaming head, and all the sensual delights of a well presented ale. It’s enough to drive a fellow to drink, and often does..

[Worts and all]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:40 PM, Aussiekraut said:

The problem with the mega swill is simply that it is made by accountants, not brewers. It's not about the customer or the beer, it is about the share holder. 

You’ve hit the nail on the kopf there Herr AK. The last thing a major brewer wants is to offend anyone. He’s haunted by the nightmare of some bloke leaning on the bar ,having his first taste of Jolly Jack’s Macho Maker, or whatever,recoiling spluttering, and declaring it as “cats p—s”, purely on the grounds that it tastes unlike his ordinary, regular beer.So he sets out to make an ordinary, regular beer, and usually succeeds. People drink it, praise it, swear by it and are completely unaware it is undeserving of any of those sentiments. Those same people probably then go home to watch Married at First Sight or Home and Away, and plan their umpteenth trip to Bali.But that’s another story. I’ll finish now.

[Journeyman]

On 4/21/2021 at 2:25 PM, Worts and all said:

You’ve hit the nail on the kopf there Herr AK. The last thing a major brewer wants is to offend anyone. He’s haunted by the nightmare of some bloke leaning on the bar ,having his first taste of Jolly Jack’s Macho Maker, or whatever,recoiling spluttering, and declaring it as “cats p—s”, purely on the grounds that it tastes unlike his ordinary, regular beer.So he sets out to make an ordinary, regular beer, and usually succeeds. People drink it, praise it, swear by it and are completely unaware it is undeserving of any of those sentiments. Those same people probably then go home to watch Married at First Sight or Home and Away, and plan their umpteenth trip to Bali.But that’s another story. I’ll finish now.

CUB told a story of a pub in Melb at Wheeler's Hill. A guy bought it as his first pub and called them in because the locals were complaining about the beer. This was back when Victorians still drank Fosters so a long time ago.  The new owner seemed to be doing everything correctly - CUB had trained him when he took over the pub, but the locals thought his beer tasted wrong.

Long story short, turned out the previous guy had been sticking a keg of water on the line to increase profits and they'd got used to it - the 'new' unadulterated beer was different enough they arc'd up over it.

[Tricky Micky]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:40 PM, Aussiekraut said:

The problem with the mega swill is simply that it is made by accountants, not brewers. It's not about the customer or the beer, it is about the share holder. 

Never a truer word spoken or written. 

[ozdevil]

17 minutes ago, Journeyman said:

CUB told a story of a pub in Melb at Wheeler's Hill. A guy bought it as his first pub and called them in because the locals were complaining about the beer. This was back when Victorians still drank Fosters so a long time ago.  The new owner seemed to be doing everything correctly - CUB had trained him when he took over the pub, but the locals thought his beer tasted wrong.

Long story short, turned out the previous guy had been sticking a keg of water on the line to increase profits and they'd got used to it - the 'new' unadulterated beer was different enough they arc'd up over it.

Few year ago now it was not uncommon   that some drivers was making money on the side by selling cheap full kegs  to publicans 

what would happen is from the 1st pick up they would pick up empties  then they would go to the  publican that would buy cheap and would fill the kegs up with water
and would delver it to the unknown publicans .. when they placed that keg with water on the tap that publican was able to get a free keg replacement

it was interesting was sitting in the yard waiting to get my load of kegs  ,  the boss came out and said to a couple of the drivers  he needs to speak with them in the office 
next minute security  was escorting them off the yard  as they got sprung  and was caught red handed  

needless to say  the publican involved was also  barred from ordering cub products   and prosecuted along with the cub drivers

Some of these drivers asked me if i wanted in . i said nope i value my job to much

 

[BrewLizard]

Food Babe is a well-known idiot, as is any other anti-GMO nutjob.

And no, "experts" do not change their minds constantly on what is healthy -- rather, idiots take editorialised headlines as gospel, apply black-and-white thinking and then ping-pong between chocolate curing cancer and giving you diabetes.

The most harmful ingredient in beer is alcohol. Enjoy responsibly.