Gazzala Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Hi All, I have some ingredients either not used or left over from other brews that I want to use up - I want to make a hoppy IPA in the craft FV so will just be a 9 litre brew. I've been disappointed with the hoppiness of my brews so far so may have gone a bit over the top with the hops in this one... Thinking of the following: 9 litre brew INGREDIENTS: 1.3kg Long Play IPA 250g Unhopped Malt Extract 200g Carapils 50g Simcoe 50g Citra 50g Centennial 50g Amarillo BRY-97 Yeast METHOD: Cold Steep grains overnight in 3l water Mix Malt Extract with steeped water and bring to boil 12.5g Simcoe + Citra + Centennial + Amarillo @ 10 12.5g Simcoe + Citra + Centennial + Amarillo @ 1 Turn off heat, let sit for 15 place pot in cold water / ice bath for 15 Add Long Play IPA + malt/hop steep to FV Add water to 9 litres Pitch yeast at 18C Ferment @ 18C for around 5 days then increase temp to 21C until finished Dry Hop 25g Simcoe + Citra + Centennial + Amarillo @ 14C for 4 days Cold Crash for 5-7 days This will be the first time I'm not following a Cooper's recipe so any feedback would be appreciated. Cheers, Gaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Hi Gaz Looks good to me. The only thing I wonder about is the temperature of the dry hop. I typically do mine around 18-20. Not saying you're wrong or anything, but what is your idea behind the lower temperature? Cheers Shamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Hey Shamus, It was a tip in a Brew Dog recipe - they reckon to get the best result from a dry hop to wait until fermentation is finished then drop the temp to 14C and leave the hops in for 5 days. I figured it was worth a shot to see if the result was any better than my previous dry hops. Cheers, Gaz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Only thing I'd probably do is drop the carapils down to 100g. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 It’s going to be BITTER too Gaz but a IPA should be. Dry hop temps are a personal choice, you’ll extract slightly different characters from dry hopping warm or cold. However the colder you dry hop the more you’ll need to use and time for the same effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Cheers OVB 100g now cold steeping. What would the drawback be if I had used 200g? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Captain - thanks - that's good to know about the DH temp. Maybe I'll rethink my method... And bitter is fine - I like bitterness in an IPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 It would be equivalent to using somewhere around 400-450g in a 23 litre batch. I just think it would add too much unfermentable sugar to the brew when being steeped by itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Plus one to above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Thanks fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 This is now in the FV. Followed the recipe as per above except for the Carapils - changed to 100g on advice from OVB. Not sure if I’ll drop the temp for the dry hop yet - I have a few days to think about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I posted this a little while ago. It relates to dry hop temperatures. https://spikebrewing.com/blogs/ask-a-pro/dry-hop-temperatures Even before I saw this article, I've always advocated on the warmer side. Cheers & good luck with the brew, Lusty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Interesting article - thanks for that. I think, given that Shamus, the Captain, yourself and the article recommend dry hopping at the higher temp then I’ll follow your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Gazzala, It really depends on what sort of character you want from the hop. If you dry hop at ferm temps you will extract oils quicker and different components of that oil will be soluble in beer at different temps too. I have a single hop beer that I really enjoy that I dry hop warm and then dry hop cold. Gives different qualities too the dry hop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 I guess I need to experiment a bit. I think I’m going to DH this one at ferment temp then I may brew it again and change the DH method to see how it changes the final brew. I don’t feel that I’ve gotten much from dry hopping in my previous brews so probably a good idea to do some experimenting to find out what works for me and what doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo the Reprobate Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 8 hours ago, The Captain!! said: I have a single hop beer that I really enjoy that I dry hop warm and then dry hop cold. Gives different qualities too the dry hop. That's really interesting @The Captain!! What differences do you get in that beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Popo said: That's really interesting @The Captain!! What differences do you get in that beer? More roundness to the aroma, like its another hop really. Just gives you more spectrum of that hop IMO. Maybe it comes from pulling some of the grassier notes at cold temps and all the fruit at FV temps, I’m not specifically sure but I have definitely noticed a difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo the Reprobate Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Cool. I'll have to try it sometime. I haven't really played around with hops like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I find it works well with cascade for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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