Beerlust Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hi SteveL. (I bow to thee!) I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!! [lol] Your EB Porter thread has been a mainstay in discussions on attempting Porter style recipes since I first joined the forum back mid last year. It has constantly been re-referenced & linked to by many members over numerous posts since you initially began the thread. The recipe I bottled in early February (of this year) was, & is my only attempt at a Porter style recipe, & I took in a lot of different source info, along with using what ingredients I had on hand at the time, before constructing the recipe & brewing it. I have listed the recipe EXACTLY as I brewed it below. I'm sure anyone reading it will see some technical faults, but I would personally be quite happy brewing the exact recipe again, as I was really happy with the end result. Coopers EB kit tin 1.7kgs Coopers Amber Malt Extract 1.5kgs Dark Dry Malt extract 500gms Dark Wheat Malt Grain (13-14EBC) 250gms Chocolate Malt Grain 150gms CaraPils 100gms Fuggles 15gms @ 15mins Fuggles 5gms @ 5 mins Oak chips 30gms added into FV at start of primary ferment. Cascade 12gms dry hopped 2 x Vanilla pods added into FV at same time as Cascade dry hop. (4-5 days after start of ferment) I did a 1 hour mash (yes I mashed the small amount of grains!) & added the liquid from the mash to 150gms of the dark dry malt extract for a small 4 litre boil for the hop schedule listed. From memory I think it ended up @ approx. 6.8 - 7.0% ABV. I'd be interested on your take of my recipe, & what you might try to improve it SteveL. [cool] I reckon I'm not alone in saying that the forum would enjoy hearing your thoughts on brewing more often. [joyful] Cheers, Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Did you notice the effect of the Cascade dry hop? Such a small amount in a malt driven style like a porter almost seems like a waste of time. But in saying that I haven't tasted it. [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Did you notice the effect of the Cascade dry hop? Such a small amount in a malt driven style like a porter almost seems like a waste of time. But in saying that I haven't tasted it. [lol] Haha... that be one of the "technical faults" I mentioned. [lol] And I agree with you Kelsey (on the surface). It's one of those bizarre little anomalies that you would expect not to notice in a beer like that, but if you took it out of the recipe, you may well notice it missing in the end beer when drinking it. [unsure] Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Dark Wheat Malt Grain (13-14EBC) 250gms Chocolate Malt Grain 150gms CaraPils 100gms I did a 1 hour mash (yes I mashed the small amount of grains!) Nit-picking on my part here, but I don't reckon any of those grains would have the diastatic power to perform an actual 'mash.' Your carapils and chocolate don't have any enzymes for conversion (happy to be corrected here [unsure]) and wheat malt does not have enough of its own, usually requiring help from the enzymes in a base malt made of barley to help it along. This is why wheat beers always have some portion of barley malt in them. Of course, I'm just being pedantic, and the flavours you get from steeping those grains will probably be quite nice. [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I wouldn't be too concerned. You are just steeping the Carapils and Choc malt. And you only used 250g wheat malt so you weren't really getting much from it anyway. You will still get the colour etc. Good nit picking though Phil [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well, personally I probably wouldn't notice any difference. I can't even notice 12g dry hop in a pale ale. I always dry hop them 30g or more. I didn't dry hop my porter mainly because I see it as a malt driven style and the hops are more there to balance the sweetness than provide any flavour or aroma. [joyful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wow! You guys are harsh! This brew was in the early days of when I just started to experiment with grains & partial mashing/steeping. When I said, "...I'm sure anyone reading it will see some technical faults...", I didn't expect that's all anyone replying to the post would focus on. Tough Crowd. [crying] Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well' date=' personally I probably wouldn't notice any difference. I can't even notice 12g dry hop in a pale ale. I always dry hop them 30g or more. I didn't dry hop my porter mainly because I see it as a malt driven style and the hops are more there to balance the sweetness than provide any flavour or aroma. [joyful'] I'm usually hopeless at picking the more subtle hops, but after taking a break from hop driven beers for a while I think I've really started to develop my palate. I'm fermenting an American Brown at the mo (1st time) and I might skip the dry hopping and see what I get from my late additions of Centennial and Citra. [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Of course' date=' I'm just being pedantic, and the flavours you get from steeping those grains will probably be quite nice. [cool'] I thought my last comment was quite positive, at the same time making fun of myself for being silly about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 When I said' date=' "...I'm sure anyone reading it will see some technical faults...", I didn't expect that's all anyone replying to the post would focus on.[/quote'] It sounded like a challenge [devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Hey' date=' Adam! Where have you been mate?[/quote'] Hey Philbo I've been real busy at work so haven't been able to get online [wink] , haven't done a brew in months. But this weekend has been brewing weekend. Brewing a pilsner today - 2nd AG brew. What have I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Lots of 3V talk, lots of me talking crap and generally not being very helpful or constructive. [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 What have I missed? Lots of 3V talk' date=' lots of me talking crap and generally not being very helpful or constructive. [lol'] I'm sure he didn't miss that [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Did I mention I had a good mentor?[lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 What have I missed? Lots of 3V talk' date=' lots of me talking crap and generally not being very helpful or constructive. [lol'] I'm sure he didn't miss that [biggrin] It's like I was never away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 We're reliable at least. [joyful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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