Sven Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 G'day all, Just finishing off my Lemon-Zest Weizen primary fermentation and was thinking about cold conditioning? Is it worth my while dropping it down to 4-5 degrees for 4- days) in the primary, then raising the temp back to 20 degrees and racking and bottling? That is what I would do for a lager or pilsener but I'm not sure about an ale. Sven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yes.. colder if you can get it.. I recently racked a (big) beer off the cake before cold conditioning and you seriously would not believe how much yeast has dropped out of it due to cold conditioning. I have my temp controller set to 2'c with a 2'c variance so the maximum temp it can get to is 4'c before the fridge kicks in again. Do it if you can, your beer will be clearer and you will get less sediment in the bottle. Yob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Did you use WB-06? If so, don't be surprised if it isn't crystal clear. It is a low floculating strain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Not sure if it is called cold conditioning I put my ales into the fridge a week prior to drinking and usually are crystal clear but SWMBO gets shitty with the beer taking up the room in the fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I suppose technically it is, I mean, you're conditioning it in the fridge which is cold. It just doesn't reduce the amount of yeast in the bottle like it does when you CC in the fermenter. I need to find myself a space in the fridge that I can store my beer so it can sit in there for a week or two before I drink it. Might investigate that on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 suggest to her that you are willing to get a small bar fridge to keep your beer in and she can get her fridge space back.. I said that and currently I have 4 brewing fridges and beer is still in the food fridge [lol] [lol] [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yeah I am looking forward to moving out of this tiny house then I will be getting a brew fridge and a fridge for kegs [biggrin] And Otto yeah thats why I thought it isn't exactly cold conditioning removing the yeast but it does make the yeast solid on the bottom of the bottles so minimises yeast in the beer. Can't wait for a brew fridge [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 suggest to her that you are willing to get a small bar fridge to keep your beer in and she can get her fridge space back.. I said that and currently I have 4 brewing fridges and beer is still in the food fridge [lol] [lol] [lol] [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 This is the yeast thats dropped from secondary I usually dont rack but I was treating this beer special.. Its almost pure yeast that has dropped out of solution after I racked it from primary onto 60g of Hops and Cold Conditioned it Last Friday. Ive had that much trub from a primary ferment [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yeah I seen the pic and thought that it looked like it was in primary with that level of trub. How viable would the yeast be from that out of curiosity or would it be dead cells etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Essentially all live yeast but it's come from an 8% IIPA so is likely to be a little unhappy. Yeast selected from secondary tend to be more attenuative and less flocculent so you can end up with a 'dusty' beer with yeast that won't want to *drop out of solution. Also it was a 1075 beer so I don't have anything same or stronger gravity to pitch it onto so will probably let it go. Yob *edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Is it worth my while dropping it down to 4-5 degrees for 4- days) in the primary, then raising the temp back to 20 degrees and racking and bottling? Sven No need to raise the temperature back up after CC, or to rack it off. Just bottle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wal Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Following CCing, is there enough yeast in the beer then for carbonation to occur in the bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Yep. There is still plenty floating around. I have had beer that I CC'd for 2 weeks and never had a problem with carbonation. Lagering for 3 months may be a little different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wal Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Thanks Hairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The LemonZest Weizen is intended to be with yeast - primary ferment then bottle it [smile] No racking required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The LemonZest Weizen is intended to be with yeast - primary ferment then bottle it [smile] No racking required. Welcome back PB2,[lol] [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Essentially all live yeast but it's come from an 8% IIPA so is likely to be a little unhappy. Yeast selected from secondary tend to be more attenuative and less flocculent so you can end up with a 'dusty' beer with yeast that won't want to *drop out of solution. Also it was a 1075 beer so I don't have anything same or stronger gravity to pitch it onto so will probably let it go. Yob *edit Interesting just was curious cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I put my ales into the fridge a week prior to drinking and usually are crystal clear I do the same, but a lot of the time I just end up sticking them in the freezer to cool quickly. This seems to do the exact opposite, making what might have been a fairly clear beer into a cloudy one. Anyone have any idea what's happening in the bottle that causes this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 The LemonZest Weizen is intended to be with yeast - primary ferment then bottle it [smile] No racking required. Thanks Paul. Do you see any benefit to cold conditioning any beers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 It depends on the style Sven. HefeWeizen (German wheat beer) are all done with the yeast in the bottle. But you can get Krystalweizen which is a clear version of the same beer essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Does a CO2 volume of around 4.0 for a Weizen seem right? Seems very high. I use the calculator at http://webspace.webring.com/people/ms/sirleslie/AlcoholChart/PrimingCalculator.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Thanks Paul. Do you see any benefit to cold conditioning any beers? Hell Yes. Always. Yes. Admittedly I do not brew wheat beers and the title of the topic says Ale [rightful] So my previous posts stand [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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