Gerhard vdW Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Hi Everyone I am looking at the recipe below, and seeing that I have all the ingredients, I thought I could give it a go. https://www.diybeer.com/au/recipe/hop-slam-ipa-nz-motueka.html The only difference is that I want to use the Safale US-05 yeast. In the current recipe above, it says that you should put the hops in immediately after stirring in the yeast. On other recipes that use the Safale US-05, it mentions that you should add the hops at around day 6-7. Since I want to use the US-05 yeast, could I still follow the recipe and put the hops in immediately after stirring in the yeast? Also, do the amount of hops affect the bitterness? Or is it the amount of time you boil the hops that affects that? Thank you for your comments. Gerhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I would wait until the fermentation is almost done and then dry hop or wait until it is complete, so yeah between day 4-7 I would dry hop. I think that recipe is an older coopers one that they tried to make easier for new brewers so they said to just chuck the dry hop in when you pitch the yeast. You can follow the recipe but you will lose the full aromatics the dry hop will bring by adding it before fermentation has begun. 32 minutes ago, Gerhard vdW said: Also, do the amount of hops affect the bitterness? Or is it the amount of time you boil the hops that affects that? This question is going to open up a can of worms, but I notice increased bitterness or whatever you want to call it from Dry hopping, especially a large amount, but not too much with smaller amounts, 50g and below. Some say it is astringency and not bitterness but the flavour does change. Most bitterness comes from adding hops to boiling or just boiled wort/water and the time it is boiled does effect the bitterness exponentially more than dry hopping ever would. The longer the boil the more bitterness you will extract, to a certain degree, while the more hops you add will also affect it. You can play with getting all the bitterness from short boiling, but that increases the amount of hops needed but can also increase the aroma and flavour extracted. Good luck with the brew, motueka is a nice hop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard vdW Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Norris! said: Good luck with the brew, motueka is a nice hop. Thanks for the advice, I will definitely then wait until at least day 4 until I add the hops pellets. I will add the hops first in a hop bag and then chuck it in. Will the hop particles eventually go and settle at the bottom? or will this end up in my beer when I am bottling? I assume should sanitize my hop bags before adding to the wort? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Yes they will along with the yeast and even more so if you chill the beer for a few days or when the beer is chilled in the bottle in the fridge. Encase you are not aware, you have to pour homebrew or bottle conditioned beer differently or the yeast and stuff goes Into the glass. Yes sanitise everything that comes into contact with the beer. Good brewing Norris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard vdW Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Thanks Norris, I appreciate it. Have a good evening. Gerhard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard vdW Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Hi Everyone, I finally have the time to brew the HOP SLAM IPA (NZ-MOTUEKA) tomorrow. The link to the recipe is in my original post. The recipe suggest dry hopping but I have now bought all the equipment to be able to boil the hops instead. Do I boil the hops with the Dry malt extract or with the IPA beer kit? If someone has some advice on the best way to boil the hops. Or if you think I should boil the one 25g pack and dry hop the other 25g pack. Any advice will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would just follow the recipe as it's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: I would just follow the recipe as it's written. Except follow @Norris!'s advice in the second post above, with respect to the dry hopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerhard vdW Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Except follow @Norris!'s advice in the second post above, with respect to the dry hopping. Hi Shamus, OK great, so basically I should wait until the fermentation has completed before adding the hops. How long will I then leave the hops in my fermenting vessel before bottling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo the Reprobate Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 to 3 days should be enough. Are you containing the hops in any way? Like in a chux or hop sock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 +1 to what Popo said. Tying them in a Chux cloth pulled straight from the pack is a good way to contain the hops and is easy to fish out after the 2-3 days. I use non-powdered food handling gloves sprayed with sanitiser to fish them out and give the Chux a quick squeeze to get some extra hoppy goodness out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 7:37 PM, Norris! said: Yes sanitise everything that comes into contact with the beer. Good brewing Norris I sanitise also everything that comes in contact with anything that comes in contact with my brew. i.e. I spray the surface I'm working on and anything I'll be toughing like fridge handles etc. When in doubt, sanitise it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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