der kleine Drache Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Anyone got experience with Nottingham and lower temperatures? I am planning a lager fermenting at 12 °C and thought of doing a sort of porter/dark beer from a Coopers Devils Half tin at the same time since I have the space in my fridge. Any advice welcome! Edited September 30, 2019 by der kleine Drache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, der kleine Drache said: Anyone got experience with Nottingham and lower temperatures? I am planning a lager fermenting at 12 °C and thought of doing a sort of porter/dark beer from a Coopers Devils Half tin at the same time since I have the space in my fridge. Any advice welcome! It's a yeast I used often but only ever fermented at ale temperatures. It's supposed to work down as low as 10ºC and I have read of others fermenting at low temps like that without issue. I can say that I have had little problem with Winter time bottle carbonation with this yeast, where daytime temps can be in the low teens and over night temps are often single digit temperatures. While I'm sure it will do the job I am wondering why you're not simply using a lager strain? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der kleine Drache Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, BlackSands said: While I'm sure it will do the job I am wondering why you're not simply using a lager strain? It's a hassle getting the yeast for me. I have 1 packet of Saflager + the Coopers tin yeast at home and a busy schedule. Is it a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I have never fermented Nottingham that low but as Blacksands noted, the website says it can ferment at that temp and other forums have posts about people having no issues with it at that low temp, but they do say to pitch extra yeast if you can, one guy used 18g. If you only have the one packet, maybe do a shaken and not stirred starter and toss it in to help kick off fermentation. If you don't want to do that, just try the 1 pack and if it doesn't kick off right away keep it at ambient for 24 hours and then back into the fermentation chamber, the slow drop down to 12c shouldn't make then yeast sleep but it could make the fermentation last longer, while the ambient temp will allow fermentation to start. One question, what temp is it where you are? You could ferment Nottingham ambient up to 24c, and I never noticed off esters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Here is the thread https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/fermenting-nottingham-cold.74602/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der kleine Drache Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Norris! said: One question, what temp is it where you are? You could ferment Nottingham ambient up to 24c, and I never noticed off esters. Thanks. The temps swing rapidly between 4 and 19 here now. I have a fridge for temp control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 That makes sense and your plan actually makes a lot of sense also. Notty is a great yeast and one of my favourites, I hope it ferment at 12c and if so I might try it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 16 hours ago, der kleine Drache said: It's a hassle getting the yeast for me. I have 1 packet of Saflager + the Coopers tin yeast at home and a busy schedule. Is it a bad idea? Saflager? I'm a little confused. You mentioned Nottingham which is a Lallemand ale yeast but Saflager yeasts (S-23, W34/70 etc) are a series of lager strains from Fermentis. So... which yeast do you have exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 He is going to ferment a lager at 12c with the saflager and ferment a dark ale/porter also with the Nottingham in the same chamber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der kleine Drache Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 19 hours ago, BlackSands said: So... which yeast do you have exactly? 9 hours ago, Norris! said: He is going to ferment a lager at 12c with the saflager and ferment a dark ale/porter also with the Nottingham in the same chamber. Yep I've got 1 Saflager S23 2 Nottingham and the Coopers yeasts from the Lager and Porter tins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) Ahhh... I misunderstood. I should have read things properly! I'll blame it on beer... Edited October 2, 2019 by BlackSands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 All those yeasts bar the porter kit yeast should work at 12. The lager ones certainly will, not sure how slow Nottingham would be that low as I've never tried it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Nottingham... ... I've never tried it. You should give it a go. You'll never look back! Edited October 3, 2019 by BlackSands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BlackSands said: You should give it a go. You'll never look back! Although I mostly use it for winter bottle carbonation because it works as low 15c in my experience. Otherwise for summer and generally I love US-05. Now I'm mostly kegging so will be closely monitoring my kegs for taste of each. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I've used Nottingham before, just not at 12 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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