BakersAle Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 When I was in England last year I tried old speckled hen I found a recipe on the net to try make this see what you guys think 2kg Ldme 30g Challenger Hops 10g Golding Hops 15g Crushed black malt 300g Crushed Crystal malt Nottingham Yeast 23ltrs water What method is best as site I found it on didn't have method just ingredients make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 A couple of comments: Did the site give the hop schedule? It also seems a little light. 2kg DME in 23 litres should come in around the 4% mark. I thought Old Speckled Hen (bottled variiety anyway) was around 5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 not at all Hairy just had all the ingredients and the quantities to use. There was no method at all for the grains or hops to be boiled or steeped . What do you recommend to bump up the % of the beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Is there a chance that it's a 19 litre brew? Here's my effort (guess) at a kit based version - never did get feedback from Aussie Josh or C5 somethin'... might give it a crack [tongue] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I've made plenty of similar recipes. EB kit, 1kg LDM, 250g dex and late hopping with EKG. Although I hop it a little more. I don't know if it tastes like Old Speckled Hen (it's been awhile since I have had one), but it is a damn nice brew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I found that site again Hairy yeah says make it to 18litres not 23 no idea where I got 23 from anyhow I might go talk to boys at the lhbw store see what they reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I was thinking steep grain for 20mins in 2litres water. Boil 15gms challenger for 15mins then boil the other 15gms for 15mins and at flame out throw in the ekg. See how that goes make it to 18litres using Nottingham yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Boil 15gms challenger for 15mins then boil the other 15gms for 15mins and at flame out throw in the ekg Did you mean 15 minutes for the first addition or 45 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 15mins for first addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 15mins for first addition I have just re-read your post. Do you mean: 15g for 15 minutes, then add another 15g and leave for another 15 minutes. Therefore, the first 15g addition is actually 30 minutes. If so, I don't think you will get enough bitterness. You will probably need to use 30g Challenger @ 60 minutes. If Challenger has an AA% of 7.5% then this (ie. 60 min addition) will give you an IBU of around 30 in 18 litres. Your plan of 15g @ 30 min and 15g @ 15 min will give you about 20 IBUs which isn't enough for this style of beer. I reckon you would be better with: Challenger - 20g @ 60 minutes (21 IBU) Challenger - 25g @ 20 minutes (16 IBU) But there are many ways to get there. Play around with some brewing software until you find a schedule you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 yeah all up 30min boil with the ekg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sorry Allan, I edited my post whilst you were responding. Check out my post above (#10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 next question how much water would I need to use for the boil if going for the hr with the challenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 next question how much water would I need to use for the boil if going for the hr with the challenger When I did extracts, I used to do six litre boils. You want a decent sized boil when doing full extract. I wouldn't do less than 5 litres. You don't have to do a 60 minute boil. You can change it to 30-45 minutes and increase the amount of hops. The other option is to use a kit for the base, as mentioned by PB2 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 thanks Hairy if it turns out any good I send you some just got to give it a shot. If I do 45mins what an extra 15mins for a good brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Moving the 60 min addition to 45 min will only reduce the bitterness by a couple of IBUs. Probably no need to change the amount for that addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hull Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 AllanN. I have a recipe book produced by CAMRA that gives a recipe for Old Speckled Hen. The final ABV should be around 5.6%, so the recipe you have is definitely for the 19 litre brew. It recommends a boil time of 90 minutes, with the Challenger added at the start of the boil, and the Golding added 10 minutes before the end of the boil. The amounts you have for the hops are the same. The recipe does include adding some sugar as well, to increase the OG. I hope this helps. And that it's not too late! [pinched] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 thanks roger I haven't made it yet it job for the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hull Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I hope you let us know what method you use, and how it turns out. Old Speckled Hen is a nice drop and I haven't tried to make a clone yet. Thanks. [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 I decided go gor 6ltr boil and boil the challenger for 90mins and going add about 200gms dextrose as I spoke guy at hbs too get the alcohol levels up more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Here goes nothing I decide make it with ingredients I got. 30gms challenger boiled for 90mins 10gms ekg at flame out 300gms crystal malt steeped half hour 15gms black malt steeped half hr 2kgs ldme Nottingham yeast Made to 18ltrs.I boiled hops in 6ltrs water, if og reading is under 1040 I will add 300gms dextrose if it over I leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hull Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Allan, sounds [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 You lads have me curious now. Might have to pick up a bottle when I'm at Dan's next. [happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 They have this on tap at the Pig & Whistle in the city here (probably elsewhere too), I've tried it a few times, always a nice drop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersAle Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 I tried this over in London at pub near the thames close to the centunary bridge and I enjoyed while all the locals where drinking fosters. I been on the hunt for ages for the recipe and found this I know the abv isn't going to be around the mark of 5.6% but hey if taste good why not have a session beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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