King Ruddager Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm new! Hooray! Welcome to brewing me [happy] In fact, I've already made my first batch (which wasn't too bad once it aged a bit) and have all the ingredients ready to start the second one next week. Anyway, I'm always thinking ahead and the next thing I'd like to try is an amber ale. I've seen some recipes but there's a few words in them I don't understand, so could someone please spell it out for me? Ideally I'd like to start with one of the Coopers canned brew things, add a bunch of malt or sugar, perhaps add some kinda secret ingredient and end up with something like James Squier's thing ... maybe? Any suggestions? As I said - please spell it out in simple terms, especially if it's more complicated than mix+sugar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB8 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Welcome to the forums mate, Since its only your second brew try this: Coopers draught kit Coopers amber extract 500g Dry malt extract 25g Fuggles hop pellets 1, Bring 2L of water to the boil, bring off the heat and add hops, let sit for 30mins....in the mean time. 2, Bring another 2L of water to boil and mix in dry malt extract 3, Pour both into fermenter straining the hop tea 4, Add both cans of extract and fill to 20L 5, Add yeast 6, Ferment at 18c, age for 8 weeks This will give you a simple hop infusion amber ale, it wont give you a JSAA. I would suggest getting some more experience with the basics first and start researching 60min boils, speciality grain steeping and yeast varieties It really isnt difficult but you need to learn to walk before you start running, get the style down then chase the clone. This forum is a great place to start Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yep, yep, yeah not looking to make a clone, just a basic amber ale. So, what's a fuggle, and can I get it from Big W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB8 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Fuggles are hops and come in various forms, pellets being the easiest and most common. You will need to go to a homebrew store or buy them online. These are Fuggles http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yep, yep, ... and how does it affect the beer? Dumb question, I know, but just trying to understand everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Used in the way Graham suggests, hops will add flavour and aroma to your beer. There are hundreds of varieties all suited to different beer styles. Fuggles are a classic for any darker brew. I only started using hops at the beginning of this year after brewing standard recipes for many years, and I will never do a brew without them again!![love] [love] [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchmen Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Much like you Phil im only new to the hop side of it but will not brew without them, they give character to the brew, I have not brewed any amber ales but fuggles would be great I have just used them in an extra stout and it was amazing, I like the coopers Pale Ale with Cascade Hops for the lighter brews similar to J S or Sparkling Ale Kit with Hallertau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Are there any good "introduction to hops" style resources around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Google it [biggrin] but I've saved you some time Linky or Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Cheers [happy] Yeah, pardon the laziness but often people in places like this know of hidden gems that Google doesn't find, so I always ask as well as Googling [wink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 People say the John Palmer book is the shiz. There are heaps of websites that explain the different hop characteristics too. I like this graph.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 a great amber ale is + Coopers Pale Ale 1.7kg kit + Liquid Amber Ale 1.5kg can either Nelson Sauvin, Moteuka or other north US type hop boiled/steeped etc like graph shows (Simple good graph!) depending on what you want to ad. do the same but with can of liquid wheat malt for a Golden Ale [wink] Good luck, let us know how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT5 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I'm not really an amber ale drinker, but thought I would give one a go. I have got a tin of OS Lager spare so I was looking at this recipe: 1.7kg OS Lager 1.5kg Liquid Amber Malt Extract 200g Dextrose 20g Pacific Hallertau hops 15min boil Yeast - undecided 20g Pacific Hallertau hops dry hopped 23 litres Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockOhopter Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Greg, somebody else may be able to elaborate further on this, but I have found when using liquid Amber, you need to reign in the sweetness by bumping up the hops. I think, depending on the bitterness of the Lager kit, you may need to have an earlier hop addition, say @ 45 mins. I think there would be a formula, I know there is a formula for working out IBU's, but does that take sweetness into account? I could be way off though [roll] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockOhopter Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Hey Ruddager, for inspiration on your Amber Ale, you should try Hawthorn Amber Ale- [love] , way better than James Squire's in my opinion... This is one Amber ale i would love to be able to make ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimA3 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 My attempt at a JSAA Pale ale ale can 1.5 kg coopers liq amber malt 0.5kg dry amber malt 25g cascade @ 30 min, 25g nelson @ 30mins, 20g galaxy @ flame out 10 min steep. Strain 150g dex Us-05 yeast 23l 5g cascade 5g Nelson 10g galaxy dry Forgot to add 5.4% IBU 38.3 EBC 19.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Right, so, I never quite got around to this but I think the time is drawing near! I reckon I'll be trying GrahamB8's recipe as my first experiment with hops and other things: Coopers draught kit Coopers amber extract 500g Dry malt extract 25g Fuggles hop pellets 1, Bring 2L of water to the boil, bring off the heat and add hops, let sit for 30mins....in the mean time. 2, Bring another 2L of water to boil and mix in dry malt extract 3, Pour both into fermenter straining the hop tea 4, Add both cans of extract and fill to 20L 5, Add yeast 6, Ferment at 18c, age for 8 weeks Feels like something I could handle, no worries :) I have a couple of questions though, of course. So, is it important to sanitise things like the strainer used? I'm sure it is, so does it need a full-blown bleach or is a run in the dishwasher and some no-rinse sanitiser good enough? Next, I've never seen Cooper's liquid malts in any store - are they only available online? Finally, what about the hops? Is a store the best place to get them or can they be bought online as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Find you Local Home Brew Shop, if not yes online. Where ever sells the hops will more then likely sell the Malt. What's your location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Adelaide, in the Mitcham area. I think there used to be a store called the Jovial Monk but when I went looking for it the other day it wasn't there :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 this is just a google search but lists a few https://www.google.com.au/search?rlz=1C1NNVC_enAU476AU476&sugexp=chrome,mod=17&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=adelaide+home+brew brewcraft appears to have a few, they can be pricey but usually have a good range, here in Victoria anyway. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Slugg Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 BUMP maybe someone on here from Adelaide can help you out. [happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 If you're ever up in the northern suburbs, go see Bill at Brewmaker on North East rd in Holden Hill. He's got a good selection of hops between $4-$5 for a 50g baggie. Good for grains as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT5 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 ...or Beer Belly on Prospect Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozale Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hi Ruddager I'm in Port Lincoln and I use Beer Belly, great prices and service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanP Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I tend to visit brewcraft for hops etc, plenty of stores around the place (I'm thinking south rd might be the closest one to you). As for Amber Ales, there's a recipe by PB2 that was absolutely sensational, reasonably straight forward recipe as well: http://www.coopers.com.au/the-brewers-guild/talk-brewing?g=posts&m=8570#post8570 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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