stever13 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 hi all i have a question . how do i know what temp to brew at with different types of beer say larger or dark ale ect. is it the yeast that is what changes the temp you need to brew at. and how do i know what yeast to use if i had a can with no yeast with it.[unsure] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Hi Steve, Basically you want to ferment at 18\xb0-20\xb0C with ale yeast, and 12\xb0-14\xb0C with lager yeast. There is a thread that explains which yeast is in which brew cans. Which one did you get that had no yeast? I think you can email Coopers and they'll send out some replacement yeast, not sure of the address though. I've got a bit of a question myself regarding this.. what temp is best for the ale+lager yeast blend? [unsure] Cheers, Kelsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I've got a bit of a question myself regarding this.. what temp is best for the ale+lager yeast blend? I would use it at the same ale temps that you mentioned in your post ie. 18-20 degrees. I wouldn't try to make a lager with it. Part lager yeast in a 7g packet would be a massive under-pitch for a lager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Ok cool, that's what I thought but thought a good idea to ask anyway! Cheers [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 kinda off topic, but I just noticed it in your signature Kelsey... Newcastle Brown Ale. I love the commercial stuff (AKA nookie broon, AKA Mother's Milk), is there a recipe around for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi Steve, and 12\xb0-14\xb0C with lager yeast. I'd say 9C-15C for a lager.[rightful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever13 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 oh no iv stuffed up then. i fermented it at around 24. bugger so to be clear i should brew around the 9 to 15 mark right. god im a .... head thanks everyone [annoyed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Steve, what did you brew and what yeast did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever13 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 hi mate as im only new to this brewing iv been only using the can of coopers beer mix i really dont know what you really call it and i have been using the yeast that comes in the can. with a number 2 brew enhancer mix. thanks for your help mate. steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever13 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 sorry mate it was a larger mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The Coopers Lager comes with an ale yeast, so even though 24 degrees is a bit high, its not as bad as brewing with a lager yeast at 24 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever13 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 ok so if i was to buy some larger yeast do i brew at around 9 to 15 ? and where do i buy it. do i just ask for a larger yeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne (Captain Yobbo) Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I've got a bit of a question myself regarding this.. what temp is best for the ale+lager yeast blend? I would use it at the same ale temps that you mentioned in your post ie. 18-20 degrees. I wouldn't try to make a lager with it. Part lager yeast in a 7g packet would be a massive under-pitch for a lager. I have brewed my sparkling ale at 18 - 20 it has the lager/ale blend and it turned out wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 ok so if i was to buy some larger yeast do i brew at around 9 to 15 ? and where do i buy it. do i just ask for a larger yeast? research lager yeast... there are a few of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 ok so if i was to buy some larger yeast do i brew at around 9 to 15 ? and where do i buy it. do i just ask for a larger yeast? There isn't a huge variety of dry lager yeast. The main two would be the Saflager ones: S-23 W-34/70 I recently used this in a Pilsner, fermented at 12 degrees and it turned out very nice: Swiss Lager Yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien E1 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 ok so if i was to buy some larger yeast do i brew at around 9 to 15 ? and where do i buy it. do i just ask for a larger yeast? Every homebrew shop will have Lager yeast. Probably the most common dry lager yeast is Saflager, but there are plenty of others around. http://www.fermentis.com/FO/pdf/HB/EN/Saflager_S-23_HB.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW30 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wayne, Sorry I've probably missed something but. I just came home with a kit of Heritage Larger. The instructions say to brew between 21-27 but it will still run at 13. Is this what you call lager/ale yeast? If so should I try for 14-16 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wayne, Sorry I've probably missed something but. I just came home with a kit of Heritage Larger. The instructions say to brew between 21-27 but it will still run at 13. Is this what you call lager/ale yeast? If so should I try for 14-16 degrees? The Heritage Lager comes with the Lager/Ale yeast. If you want to make an ale then ferment it around 18-20 degrees. If you wish to make a lager then ditch the kit yeast, get yourself some true lager yeast (2 packets is best) and ferment at lager temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Master Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 ............ if you use a larger yeast, you will not necessarily get a bigger beer!!!!![innocent] Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom J Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I made a device to cool the fermenter in hot enviroments: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Welcome to the Forum Tom! Your cooling device looks good. I like the continuous flow of water on the FV. A question though. I watched your video about installing the airlock but my question is why did you do it? [unsure] It sort of defeats the purpose of buying the Coopers DIY kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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