Trusty1 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi guys and gals I have just bottled a real ale brewed with re-cultured Coopers Sparkling Ale Yeast, and want to put a toucan Pale Ale and Candian Blonde down and am thinking of whack it it straight in the fermenter on the trub from the Real Ale. Any thoughts on this? It will have to happen soon... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 just did a quick search (the function actually works!) and found THIS discussion from last year if anyone is interested. i am pressed for time, so I'm just tossing everything into the fermentor I just emptied. We haven't heard from Anne for while, have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 OK, sorry people, changed my mind after looking the fridge. I used a spare clean, sanitised fermentor and another recultured CSA from the fridge with the Pale Ale packet yeast (lager and ale). Added 1.25 cups of white sugar and made it to 23L. Will brew at the coolend give the lager yeast. Does 3 posts in a row on a topic started oneself constitute talking to oneself? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Damn was just reading this and I was going to get you to keep all of us informed on how well this works. I was thinking I could be doing something similar with the recultured yeast that I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Instead of just dumping my new brew on top of the old yeast I tend to bottle the beer until there is very little liquid (I don't tend to let much go to waste [biggrin] ). I then open a new 600ml bottle of water and tip it in the fermentor give it a swish around then refill the water bottle with the muddy yeast solution. I then use this as you would a liquid yeast. I only use this method if I plan on making a new beer on the same day or within the next couple of days. I sometimes go through the whole yeast cleaning process but usually can't be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I am planning on using a spare pale ale kit soon, so I'll go straight on this yeast cake, and let yuose all know how it goes. 2-3 weeks time and I'll kick it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng12 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 This is an interesting topic, may give it a go one no harm i suppose. Anyone done this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I've done it many different ways with sucess. My favoured quick method is the one I mentioned above as it gives you more than enough yeast with less of the waste products from the last brew. Also, it gives you the option of using a clean fermentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng12 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Cheers Muddy il try this out after the next brew finishes, i don't usually brew on the same day as i bottle for time reasons. But i can make exceptions[biggrin] In theory could this process be repeated brew after brew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyDave Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I think the same as Matty and also thought I would love to know how this turns out. And once again Muddy has given me good clues and technique [cool] I heard breweries do this to protect their strains, and for them with consistant brews it makes all the sense in the world - however do we not have to wonder if our initial brew is good enough to warrant this? I also wonder if the use of hops in your brew would affect the scouring of the yeast, as surely there would be traces of hops too? Please remember I don't mind asking stupid questions [rightful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hey Trusty, Just leave a centimetre of beer on the trub, sanitise 2 jars. Swirl the fermenter & fill the first jar. Cover with foil & leave for 10 mins, pour off the cloudy liquid to the 2nd jar (cover with foil) & leave the sediment in the bottom of the 1st jar. The cloudy liquid is your next pitch of yeast! Dead easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I haven't got time right now to go over to AussieHomeBrewer forum but I remember I was reading a post from a few weeks ago where people successfully use the same yeast up to something like 10-20 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Johng, Just throwing in my two bobs worth, What Muddy said is a good way to do it, but I don\u2019t swirl and mix all the trub, I leave a very small amount of beer, the last drop that wont drain through the tap, I swirl this gently, by doing that you only mix up the soft live yeast and not all the rubbish. I usually get about 1/3 L . I feed this with some Dex and water mix, after I have let it settle and have poured off the beer that comes to the top. Give the yeast and dex-water mix a good shake in a bottle covered with Gladwrap. You will have a large starter in a few hours. This can be split in half and 1/2 put in the fridge, The other 1/2 can be used straight away or refrigerated. I\u2019m new to this homebrew stuff and have only made 23 brews, but I find that method works best for me. Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng12 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 No Worries Warren im keen to try this out, if succesful then il keep a rolling yeast going. Im currently brewing a 12 litre batch on a coopers ale yeast so when thats over i'll give this process a go. Beats paying $15 for a Liquid yeast, which i used on my last brew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I often reuse yeast but don't like to push my luck. When using a liquid yeast, rather than reuse it from the trub, I tend to culture it up and split it into about 5 stubbies which I then cap and save in the fridge for future use (I use one of them straight away of course [biggrin] ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng12 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I was going to try that Muddy when i got the parcel but i said stuff it, i'll use the whole lot and see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 When using a liquid yeast' date=' rather than reuse it from the trub, I tend to culture it up and split it into about 5 stubbies which I then cap and save in the fridge for future use (I use one of them straight away of course [biggrin'] ). Who you been talking to???[wink] Saves me a fortune in yeast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Johng, Go the search box at the bottom of the page and type in culturing yeast. It will tell you how to culture the Coopers yeast that they use to brew. Once you do this and make your own beer, you can use the same process from your own home brew. A12L BATCH? Must be prety strong!![devil] I have cultured Coopers yeast from one Coopers longneck 7500mm bottle. Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Master Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have cultured Coopers yeast from one Coopers longneck 7500mm bottle. Warren ......... Mmmmmm, shouldn't that read 750ml. Maybe you spent too much time in the back of a car. [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have cultured Coopers yeast from one Coopers longneck 7500mm bottle. Warren ....... Mmmmmm, shouldn't that read 750ml. Maybe you spent too much time in the back of a car. [bandit] Or maybe it is a really really big bottle 7.5 m tall would make for slot of beer. I thought my 1.5 L swing top bottles where big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have cultured Coopers yeast from one Coopers longneck 7500mm bottle. Warren ....... Mmmmmm, shouldn't that read 750ml. Maybe you spent too much time in the back of a car. [bandit] Or maybe it is a really really big bottle 7.5 m tall would make for slot of beer. I thought my 1.5 L swing top bottles where big. at my visit of the Old Goulburn Brewery on saturday, I bought a refillable, 3L 'Goulburn Stubby' with a swing top lid of Stout! Yeah baby! I'll take a photo of it and try to post it. Oh yeah, sorry, and after reading my brewing notes, I realised I have 'brewed on the trub' previously. It was when i was just getting over my back complaint and was affected by pain killers (my excuse and I'm sticking to it). I brewed an OS Coopers Lager witha TC Pils yeast with some hersbrucker and saaz hops boiled and put in the FV loose and also dry hopped. then I brewed the TC pils (my second Pils)on the trub. I used a LHBS equivalent BE2 and nothing else. I have tried a few but have not been overwhelming, except that it was nowhere near as good as the first TC pils I made, which I used a brewcraft czech pils converter (and maybe some extra dex) and was one of my best beers. I put one in the fridge last night (second pils, not the first they're all gone!) and will sample over the weekend and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Wow 3L. I was impressed with the 1.5L so I bought 4 ( the rest they had) I have some stout in one and Sparkling Ale in another one. I am hoping to put some Golden Ale in my next one and then a Vintage Ale (from the recipe section) in the last one and let it sit their for a year or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemS Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 For people culturing yeast from bottles I just did this however the yeast did not like the dme I used at first to reactivate it. After three days no bubble or foam on the test. However when I was bottling a brew I took some of the priming sugar solution and added it to the yeast test flask and got results I now have yeast breeding up in my flask. Also I live in the US and I think the beer may have been sitting for a while leading to longer times to reactivate the yeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 I have cultured Coopers yeast from one Coopers longneck 7500mm bottle. Warren ....... Mmmmmm, shouldn't that read 750ml. Maybe you spent too much time in the back of a car. [bandit] Or maybe it is a really really big bottle 7.5 m tall would make for slot of beer. I thought my 1.5 L swing top bottles where big. I just found THESE on Shebay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I found those the other day when I was looking at kegging gear. I would like one of them as when the SWMBO says one beer and we have to go (to the shops)I could grab one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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