Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Hi all, First time posting. I've just made the prescription pils which is my first ever temp controlled brew. I'm wanting to know what I'd need to change in the recipe to make it an Aussie lager like Carlton draught? I'm assuming the hops amount and boil time would change and maybe yeast type. I can only make small batch due to only having bar fridge to ferment in. Any advice would be welcome Thanks. Edited November 20, 2019 by Dazguy4207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) I can't help with the recipe side but I have a shorter, wider 30l FV that would fit most bar fridges - ~34 x 44 cm & a taller slimmer one, ~53 x 30. Unless by 'small batch' you MEAN 23l. Mind you, I'm unsure why anyone would want to turn beer into Carlton Draught... and I'm an ex-Victorian. Edited November 20, 2019 by Journeyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 LOL yes i see VB and Draught don't get much love. Would be interested to know where you got the short fermenter as it would save me buying a larger fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Assuming you made the Pils with a lager yeast and fermented at 12C? To make an Aussie lager, all you need to do is extract all the body, hops and flavour. This recipe will probably do it Aussie Bitter You can buy the 25l fermenter at Dan Murphy, Big Dub or from coopers online store on the site. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 thanks for the recipe lab rat. my little temp controlled fridge only fits the coopers craft beer fermenter so looking at something that will fit it until i get my hands on a larger fridge unless there is a larger fermenter that is low height box style that will fill the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Dazguy4207 said: Would be interested to know where you got the short fermenter as it would save me buying a larger fridge. I'm not sure. I got it as part of a bundle of stuff from a gumtree seller. They are in Mt Braker in SA so it would be either from ebay or somewhere local, maybe Adelaide. I just went browsing the few I know of and for some reason they don't bother putting FV sizes in their listings. Sorry... But at least you know they are available. And it's definitely an FV - has the volume markings on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Journeyman said: I'm not sure. I got it as part of a bundle of stuff from a gumtree seller. They are in Mt Braker in SA so it would be either from ebay or somewhere local, maybe Adelaide. I just went browsing the few I know of and for some reason they don't bother putting FV sizes in their listings. Sorry... But at least you know they are available. And it's definitely an FV - has the volume markings on the side. Sweet! the hunt begins thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dazguy4207 said: Sweet! the hunt begins thanks again If it helps, this might assist in photos for proportions - the lid is about 2 cm less than the taller FV version. (not a Coopers one but on other sites) Combined with extra width the FV shuld be noticeably different in appearance in pics. Standard Coopers PET bottle for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 might head down to my LHBS and ask there for ideas. my lager fermenter would just fit if there wasn't a freezer compartment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeerpig Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Bunnings sell a $20 water drum fitting those dimensions that can be used if you can't track down a name brand fermenter. https://www.bunnings.com.au/adventure-products-25l-blue-tint-wide-mouth-water-storage-drum-with-bung_p3240533 https://www.bunnings.com.au/icon-plastics-20mm-drum-tap_p3241518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, Lab Rat said: To make an Aussie lager, all you need to do is extract all the body, hops and flavour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dazguy4207 said: might head down to my LHBS and ask there for ideas. my lager fermenter would just fit if there wasn't a freezer compartment. How difficult would it be to remove the freezer section? Som of the bar fridges I have seen didn't seem to have their own coils through the freezer, it was just a compartment shut off from the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, thebeerpig said: Bunnings sell a $20 water drum fitting those dimensions that can be used if you can't track down a name brand fermenter. https://www.bunnings.com.au/adventure-products-25l-blue-tint-wide-mouth-water-storage-drum-with-bung_p3240533 https://www.bunnings.com.au/icon-plastics-20mm-drum-tap_p3241518 Thanks I'll look into that. I just measured the space it's roughly 40cm square Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Journeyman said: How difficult would it be to remove the freezer section? Som of the bar fridges I have seen didn't seem to have their own coils through the freezer, it was just a compartment shut off from the rest. There is a coil built into the shelf. I've heard you can bend them but if it cracks it stuffs the fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Dazguy4207 said: Thanks I'll look into that. I just measured the space it's roughly 40cm square Ah... then my squatty wouldn't fit in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Journeyman said: Ah... then my squatty wouldn't fit in there. if i could get rid of the freezer somehow then my other fermenter would fit fine. Looks like i need another fridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Dazguy4207 said: Hi all, First time posting. I've just made the prescription pils which is my first ever temp controlled brew. I'm wanting to know what I'd need to change in the recipe to make it an Aussie lager like Carlton draught? I'm assuming the hops amount and boil time would change and maybe yeast type. I can only make small batch due to only having bar fridge to ferment in. Any advice would be welcome Thanks. Sub one of the extract tins for 200g of plain white sugar. Sub the hops for 25gm of Pride of Ringwood hops. Keep everything else the same. That will get you somewhat close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Sub one of the extract tins for 200g of plain white sugar. Sub the hops for 25gm of Pride of Ringwood hops. Keep everything else the same. That will get you somewhat close. Cheers for that I'll give it a go. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 19 hours ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Sub one of the extract tins for 200g of plain white sugar. Sub the hops for 25gm of Pride of Ringwood hops. Keep everything else the same. That will get you somewhat close. Hi Greeny, Would i sub the malt that gets boiled with the hops for sugar? or just add it with the rest of the malt and boil malt with the hops? is the POR hops less as it's more intense bitterness? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Id use a malt tin and also the sugar in about 4L of water. Yeah the POR will give you more IBU than the hallertau hence less hops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Id use a malt tin and also the sugar in about 4L of water. Yeah the POR will give you more IBU than the hallertau hence less hops. Would i only do some of the malt in the boil? have read boiling the malt will darken the beer. So like in pils recipe 250g malt and the white sugar in the boil with the hops? still only 30min boil. sorry if asking too many questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Dazguy4207 said: Would i only do some of the malt in the boil? have read boiling the malt will darken the beer. So like in pils recipe 250g malt and the white sugar in the boil with the hops? still only 30min boil. sorry if asking too many questions. Yeah only use one of the malt packs and the sugar as per the recipe. Stick with the 30 minute boil as per the recipe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazguy4207 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussiekraut said: Yeah only use one of the malt packs and the sugar as per the recipe. Stick with the 30 minute boil as per the recipe. Cheers for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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