Canadian Eh!L Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 What's the difference, eh?? I hear all this talk about cubing this brew or that brew before it gets kegged. What the @#$% is the difference between putting your brew in an glass carboy and a "cube" for secondary "storage". This seems to me to be an old method of using carboys under another term "cubed".[unsure] This seems lame to me.[annoyed] Since i've been using a secondary carboy as "storage vessel for years and have been totally ignored as a usefull method and now I see it is semi-common practise. What's the diff?[unsure] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 To me, cubing is to put the beer into a plastic rectangular jerry can and squeezing out the extra air before sealing the vessel for lagering. I don't do it myself as I don't keg and rarely make lager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 What's the difference, eh?? I hear all this talk about cubing this brew or that brew before it gets kegged. What the @#$% is the difference between putting your brew in an glass carboy and a "cube" for secondary "storage". This seems to me to be an old method of using carboys under another term "cubed".[unsure] This seems lame to me.[annoyed] Since i've been using a secondary carboy as "storage vessel for years and have been totally ignored as a usefull method and now I see it is semi-common practise. What's the diff?[unsure] Around these here parts you will find that most references to cubing refer to storing the wort in the cube/jerry can before fermenting, not as a secondary. This method is mostly used by people that 'no chill', that is instead of chilling the wort after the boil, the wort is transferred to a cube whilst hot and left to cool naturally. You can then ferment this the next day or even months later when you are ready. It is like having a fresh wort kit at your disposal. If you are using it as a secondary then there is no real difference between using a cube or carboy. I don't think anyone discounts your use of a secondary because it has a reason. From memory you use a secondary to free up FV/Carboys for primary. I don't use a secondary because I don't have a need. I rarely brew lagers and my ales are bottled after approx. 2 weeks. I also don't have multiple brews on the go and bottling straight from primary off the trub doesn't worry me. I would use a secondary if I wanted to lager for a long period of time. Chad, if your practices work for you then don't worry what other people think of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hairy, So does this mean there is a diff between a cube and a carboy or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hairy, So does this mean there is a diff between a cude and a carboy or not? They are a different shape. If used for the same purpose then there is no real difference. Note: Sorry, I edited my earlier post whilst you posted the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yes, a cube is HDPE Plastic (Food Grade) and a Carbouy is glass Yob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 You can get plastic carboys: Better Bottle Carboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 So does this mean there is a diff between a cude and a carboy or not? Different container to do the same thing. They're both just big bottles. I understood cubing to be the same a what Hairy said, mixing up a wort to keep for a later date. The term 'cube' is just because cheaper jerry cans are square and easy to store. I don't see any point in cubing a kit beer, as it's basically 'cubed' into a tin, just add water. But for all grain, if someone wants to have one brewday dedicated to just making wort it can stock them up for a month or so and then just dump it into FVs when needed. I've heard of people cubing as a secondary for aging like muddy said, but really only for long, cheap and convenient 'set and forget' lagering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 yowza! a lot of new posts popped up since i started typing the last one [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm really not concerned with the shape or the matter the vessel it is made from but whether it does the same purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 yowza! a lot of new posts popped up since i started typing the last one [biggrin] Me too[biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm really not concerned with the shape or the matter the vessel it is made from but whether it does the same purpose. They both hold liquid, so yeah [biggrin] Provided you get a food grade container, one will be just as good as the other. If you could get a 5 gallon sandwich bag and it would do the same thing[biggrin] Now that would be an interesting development in homebrewing... Giant tapped bags, like the bag in a box of 'goon' but 5 times the size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If you could get a 5 gallon sandwich bag and it would do the same thing Although in return you would struggle to get a big sandwich into a 5 gallon carboy without ruining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 without ruining the carboy or the sandwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 without ruining the carboy or the sandwich? Depends on what is in the sandwich. If it was my wife's cooking then both the sandwich and the carboy would be ruined [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm confused...[crying] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 no need to be confused. sandwiches are the currency of my people... But soup+sandwich is an awesome meal, so lets cut out the middleman by processing the sandwich into a soup, lets call it 'sandwich soup'. That would settle nicely into carboy, cube or bag and it would go well with a pint of beer and a packet of crisps. [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotm Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm really not concerned with the shape or the matter the vessel it is made from but whether it does the same purpose. They both hold liquid, so yeah [biggrin] Provided you get a food grade container, one will be just as good as the other. If you could get a 5 gallon sandwich bag and it would do the same thing[biggrin] Now that would be an interesting development in homebrewing... Giant tapped bags, like the bag in a box of 'goon' but 5 times the size... [lol] a 5 gallon goon bag would break my clothes line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Well I am going against the grain here and beg to differ.... they ARE used for different purposes and a cube can also be used the same as a carboy BUT a Carboy can't be used the same as a cube if intended for a no chill. Hot wort goes into the Cube after a boil generally for the ease to squeeze out any air to enable a seal and the least amount of air as possible. Can you squeeze a Carboy to do this?... no! It then allows the wort to cool down without any help or other means. You can then store the cube for months if you want before needing to ferment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Good point Bill. And adding boiling hot wort to a glass carboy could lead to cracking. But where do you stand on the Sandwich Bag vs Carboy debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEoin Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Can you squeeze a Carboy to do this? If its plasic, yes. At the end of the day, a carboy, buckey, cube, bag, jar, are the same thing and temperatures within recommended brewing ranges would not be enough to cause any damage to your equipent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Sorry LordEoin but that was not what I was answering... the question was to do with a glass carboy not a plastic one ... it's a bit hard to squeeze glass [pinched] What's the difference, eh?? What the @#$% is the difference between putting your brew in an glass carboy and a "cube" for secondary "storage". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien E1 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm really not concerned with the shape or the matter the vessel it is made from but whether it does the same purpose. They both hold liquid, so yeah [biggrin] Provided you get a food grade container, one will be just as good as the other. If you could get a 5 gallon sandwich bag and it would do the same thing[biggrin] Now that would be an interesting development in homebrewing... Giant tapped bags, like the bag in a box of 'goon' but 5 times the size... [lol] a 5 gallon goon bag would break my clothes line. No goon of fortune with them then![biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I just got myself up to date with this thread. I know why I like it so much round here. You lot are nutters. [lol] [lol] [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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