AdamS12 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hi i am new to the forum and to making home brew. I put down my first brew on Saturday. I have a couple of questions about bottling with the P.E.T. bottles. How do i clean the bottles for first time use/bottling? How do i clean/sanitise the bottles after first time use/bottling? Thanks Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Master Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Welcome to the forum Adam, Just give them a good rinse for first time use. The next time you will have to give them a good clean after use then sanitize when you are ready to refill. Personally I prefer glass, I find them easier to clean. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS12 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Thanks for the reply. How much sanitizer should i use for the P.E.T bottles? I am going to be using Cooper's Sanitizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***** Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Personally I prefer glass, I find them easier to clean. Cheers, Peter I have to agree with the Peter here. There has been a lot of conversation about sanitisers recently, e.g. Rinse or no rinse argument where Starsan and Idophor get a real run. At the minute I am still using the non-recommended sodium metabisulphite (because I still have some on hand). I am also using only glass and as I prefer to rinse I am rinsing with hot water, I am confident that nothing will get past my regime. However using hot water is not recommended with PET bottles. If you are going to rely on PET for your bottle supply then I would do what most others do clean with napisan then sanitise with Starsan or Idophor. Brewers here tend to follow the instructions supplied with these products and have no problems. As I prefer to rinse I reckon I will go with un-scented bleach in the future, I may even give the Coopers product a go. There is plenty of advice here, just do a search and yo will find the answer to most of your questions. You are in the right place to ensure you Brew well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamS12 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I bought some Cooper's sanitizer today so that is all i have for now. So should i clean then sanitize then rinse? Should i just make up some sanitizer in a bucket for the bottles? Cheers Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***** Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hey Adam Check out this post http://www.coopers.com.au/the-brewers-guild/talk-brewing?g=posts&t=3660 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I don't use Cooper's sanitiser but doesn't it say on the bottle how to use it? For future use I'd grab some iodophor. A splash of that in the bottles that have already been rinsed clean and you are good to go - and it is no rinse too [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 There is a huge difference between cleaning and sanatising. So need to get familiar with these terms so as not to confuse. All my bottles are PET and I have only ever used PET bottles when/if bottling. To tell you the truth... I really can't remember the last time I cleaned them [pinched] yet I can boast to never have had an infection too. Contrudictory to some but PET bottles can be washed in hot water. Not boiling water. I rinse mine from the hot water tap without any issues whatsoever. 1/ rinse bottle in hot water from the tap. You know the drill... half fill then lid on and shake, empty and rinse with hot water. 2/ leave caps on "very' lose until they cool then drain and tighten cap a little. Store away until ready to use. 3/ when ready to use, a quick wash/rinse in hot water and spray bottles and caps with Starsan. 4/ shake bottle upside down (just before using) to rid excess liquid and fill, carb drop and cap. 5/ as soon as they are empty I repeat step 1. Now having said that, I keg. However, I still get about 5 or so bottles from each brew and have never had any problems. [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Substitute starsan with iodophor and Bill has basically described my routine - except all of mine goes into bottles [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Your cleaning routine should start as soon as you empty the bottle. It is easier to clean at that time rather than when the sludge has caked itself on the bottom of the bottle. Once I pour the beer into a glass I will rinse the bottle immediately. Then fill with some water and "shake it like a polaroid picture". And then rinse again. The "cleaning" process is then done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 "shake it like a polaroid picture" Hey Ya! [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Your cleaning routine should start as soon as you empty the bottle. It is easier to clean at that time rather than when the sludge has caked itself on the bottom of the bottle. Once I pour the beer into a glass I will rinse the bottle immediately. Then fill with some water and "shake it like a polaroid picture". And then rinse again. The "cleaning" process is then done. Yep... see step 5 [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sorry Bill. But your post wasn't exciting enough; I started drifting off around point 3. I think you need less of the useful information and more pop culture references in your posts [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sorry Bill. But your post wasn't exciting enough; I started drifting off around point 3. I think you need less of the useful information and more pop culture references in your posts [biggrin] No probs... how's this? 1/ Wash, Rinse and Repeat by Kelly Clarkson 2/ Store Run by Trez Songs 3/ Spray Somethin' by Young Jeezy 4/ Shake, Rattle and Roll by Elvis Presley 5/ Back At One by Brian McKnight [alien] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I think Elvis has already left the building....does he still count as a pop culture reference. Other than that.......[lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Adam, you can make one of these. If you don't have a pipe bender just use 3 1/2" elbows with the solder inside, clean the end of the pipe with steel wool stick them in the elbows and heat with a torch until the solder appears. Easy![love] Connect it to the hot tap and you will have spotless bottles. Then spray some Isdophor in each bottle and Bob's your uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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