swifty Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 hello after doing a couple of kit brews now, i have got two cans of original series draught. i am a little confused about the yeast, on the "how to brew" section of the coopers site it recommends lager temperatures but the instructions are different. my yeast packets only have a date code. any ideas on fermentation and maybe a recipe to brew with the two cans and maybe some hops? sorry if sounds a bit basic but i am new to brewing[innocent] many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipsy Mcstaga Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hey Glen, Are you looking at this recipe? Fresh Draught That`s made with the Can of Thomas Coopers Traditional Draught not the Original series, Im pretty sure the OS cans have a blend of ale/lager yeast and need to ferment around the low 20`s Sticky for the yeast is here Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Loving Trent Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I am current doing a batch of OS draught was one of the nicest smelling batches so far and it was only pitched three days earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hey Glen, Are you looking at this recipe? Fresh Draught That`s made with the Can of Thomas Coopers Traditional Draught not the Original series, Im pretty sure the OS cans have a blend of ale/lager yeast and need to ferment around the low 20`s Sticky for the yeast is here Here thanks for that looks like i was looking at the wrong instructions! so could i make a beer using both cans together and some ale yeast and maybe some hop tea? would i need any extra brewing sugar if i used both cans? many thanks glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipsy Mcstaga Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Yeh 2 Cans nothing else, Use both packets of yeast and make to 25 litres. Add the hops of your choice [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 All I have to remember about the yeast is You only have to brew the Thomas Coopers Pilsner and the European Lager at lager temps which is around 11C, while you brew the rest at Ale temps wich is around 20C. All OS kits are using ale yeast, even the lager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 thanks guys for reply think i will do the two cans os draught, ferment at 20c and maybe add a little flavour/aroma with a 15 min boil. i presume i can do the boil with about 5 litres of water and 500g extract and add hops for 15 min and 0 mins? i was thinking maybe cascade hop for flavour and aroma? many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 hi glen, just so happens i'm sampling an OS Draught hopped with cascade at the momment.[cool] it's only been in bottle since april 22. it is surpassing my expectations for such a green beer. the aroma is quite nice. and the flavour totally quaffable.[wink] the recipe is very simple. 23l water 1.7 OS draught kit 600g dex 480 malto dex (liquid) 7g copper's kit yeast 15g cascade dry hopped @ day 6 207g dex for bulk priming i think this one is a winner. i'll be making this one again soon. chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Rivers Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Morning Guys. I have just put another OS Draught down this morning and as soon as I put the yeast in at temp 25C the airlock started bubbling merrily. Has there been some change to the yeast or a new batch being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 That sounds pretty quick - I don't beleive the yeast has changed. My airlock never bubbles [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Rivers Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Disregard my first post guys. I tightened the top down and am now waiting for the yeast to work. However I can`t explain the bubbling because leakage would only cause pressure equalisation. It appears we are never to old to learn but in brewing it seems we just have to say don`t know and get on with drinking[happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 If the brew is warmer than ambient air temp', once the FV is sealed the brew will warm up the air in the headspace, increasing the pressure and causing the airlock to gurgle. Never, never trust the airlock [devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 That sounds pretty quick - I don't beleive the yeast has changed. My airlock never bubbles [innocent] LOL [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardC2 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I noticed some casting flash on the lid sealing surface of my Micro brew FV when I was cleaning it after my last batch. So,using a sharp knife,I carefully trimmed it flat. Now the airlock actually works! I spent National Home Brewer's day (last Saturday) Mentoring my wife on her 1st brew-a Brewer's Best summer ale kit/with steeping grains,she nailed her temps,additions,etc till we finished up by late afternoon. I'm proud of her for doing such a bang up job! So,Sunday I got to brew my OS draught. I posted the recipe in the recipe resource. 1 OS draught can,3lbs (1.362kg)Munton's plain light DME,US Pearl hops,& Czech Saaz hops. I re-hydrated the kit yeast as well. This time,I boiled 2.5G (about 9.5L)of water in my 5G (19L)BK,adding all 3lbs (1.362kg)of DME. Stir it in,stir down small hot break,Then add 1oz (30g)US Perle hops in sack for 20 mins. At 10mins,add .5oz (15g)of Saaz hops. At flame out,take off heat,remove/drain hop sacks,add last .5oz (15g)of Saaz hops,cover kettle,time steep of 10mins. Remove hop sack,add OS draught can,stir briskly to incorporate. Chill in ice bath down to 70F(21C),add to fermenter,top off to 23L,stir briskly again. Hydrometer sample was OG 1.046. Stir re-hydrated yeast & pitch. Tighten down lid,fill airlock (I use cheap grocery store vodka). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 That's the way Leonard.... get the SWMBO into the action. I hope it all turns out well for her so as not to put her off doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 leonard, can you repeat that?[crying] i missed the first part, and the second....[biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 [lol] I got a bit lost too [innocent] ...and that was before mention of pounds, ounces and farenheit [tongue] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 hi glen, just so happens i'm sampling an OS Draught hopped with cascade at the momment.[cool] it's only been in bottle since april 22. it is surpassing my expectations for such a green beer. the aroma is quite nice. and the flavour totally quaffable.[wink] the recipe is very simple. 23l water 1.7 OS draught kit 600g dex 480 malto dex (liquid) 7g copper's kit yeast 15g cascade dry hopped @ day 6 207g dex for bulk priming i think this one is a winner. i'll be making this one again soon. chad thanks sounds good[happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 480 malto dex (liquid) Do you reckon it needs the maltodextrin Chad? Not a big fan of it myself but just wondering what your thoughts are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 480 malto dex (liquid) Do you reckon it needs the maltodextrin Chad? Not a big fan of it myself but just wondering what your thoughts are. i was going to do the two cans, maybe use a safale yeast and flavour/aroma hop. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I reckon the 2 can option is a winner. I'm thinking of putting one on soon with some cascade to get rid of some of my excess hop stocks (I accidently double ordered [pinched] ). I'll either go for a coopers recultured yeast or US-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 I reckon the 2 can option is a winner. I'm thinking of putting one on soon with some cascade to get rid of some of my excess hop stocks (I accidently double ordered [pinched] ). I'll either go for a coopers recultured yeast or US-05 ok i might do the us05 as i have not done reculture before and is only my third brew. i want to concentrate on getting my temps right etc to make the best i can before i advance. first brew was the coopers lager and was ok but seemed a bit thin to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I reckon the 2 can option is a winner. I'm thinking of putting one on soon with some cascade to get rid of some of my excess hop stocks (I accidently double ordered [pinched] ). I'll either go for a coopers recultured yeast or US-05 ok i might do the us05 as i have not done reculture before and is only my third brew. i want to concentrate on getting my temps right etc to make the best i can before i advance. first brew was the coopers lager and was ok but seemed a bit thin to me? 'tis never to early to get into reculturing your own yeast. there is a sticky on the forum explaining in easy to understand terms. I'm doing some tonight! Used with correct temps, like you are achieving = [love] beer! (+ if you buy longnecks you get commercial beer and bottles along with the yeast for about the same cost as just the yeast, yay!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 hi guys, i did a toucan OS draught a long while back (no hops adds). i found it a little disappointing and darker that i was going for . i still have a few bottles in fact. i'll dig one up when the pub opens and post a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 480 malto dex (liquid) Do you reckon it needs the maltodextrin Chad? Not a big fan of it myself but just wondering what your thoughts are. muddy, the malto-dex that i use is liquid corn syrup. it has a few other ingredients (see "guinnesss clone" in recipe resource). i'm finding that it make a really tasty brew. it's half the price of LDM and easier to find in my small town. the recipe that i quoted would cost around $20 compared to $30+ for the Toucan. what would you suggest instead of the M-D? other that the toucan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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