Slurtis Staggersalot Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 What should I expect from this yeast? I'm going to do a side by side brew this afternoon. Two batches of Thomas Coopers brew master selection IPA. One with Safale S-04 and one with the yeast supplied with the kit. The brews will be identical other than the yeast. I'm tempted to add some hops as well, but I think the IPA is pretty well done with the hops added initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 The recipe is: 1.7kg Thomas Coopers Brewmaster selection IPA 1kg LDME 300g Dex 15g goldings pellets dry hopped (just dumped them straight into the brew.) I've got the first one put down with the Safale s-04 yeast, I'm waitng on my boiling water for the second one that will get the kit yeast. [devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatR1 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Have you seen the spec sheet for it? http://www.ibrew.com.au/pdf/SafaleS-04.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 Interesting, thanks for posting that Mat. I'm kind of hoping that someone here has used this yeast before and has an opinion on how it compliments or degrades the beer it is used in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Have used S-04 with a number of brews in the past. Each time I've been disappointed with the end result. They've all carried a background aroma like brackish water - it can be masked, somewhat, by shed-loads of hops but still there. [annoyed] Dunno, it might be me... [roll] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THIRSTY MATT Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 that suprises me paul, i thought the s-04 wouldve been your favourite dry yeast??? i like how a simple question can get an interesting answer.... do you think the original IPA YEAST STRAIN would have been the s-04 or like it paul? or is it just impossible to know? cheers matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 The side by side batches are a month in the bottle now and I have to say that I prefer the result of the Coopers yeast over the S-04... I wouldn't say the S-04 batch tastes bad, just not as good as the coopers yeast. I'm hoping it gets better with a little more age, the batch put down with the coopers yeast is going fast! [happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM8 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 have used S-04 a number of times, it's ok (adds a pretty big yeast flavour) but, S-05 gets my vote! ends in a "cleaner/clearer" beer. have made a number of amber ales & irish reds & have been quite happy with the result. what's the cooper's IPA like? i ask because this is my new favourite beer style for spring/summer this year & have made one already & have another due to go in next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andris Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 I had to use this yeast with one of my batches because the original kit yeast was lost in transportation (not the Coopers! :D) oddly enough, Im happy with it - it produced really nice beer and I cant tell that it smells yeasty or anything like that. are we talking about same producer? mine was a pack of dry yeast made by Fermentis (French company) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Yes you're talking about the same yeast Andris [biggrin] I don't mind S-04 but I don't really use it much. US-05 is my go to yeast when it comes to the dry stuff. It's dependable, rugged, and doesn't make a big show - It just gets the job done right - A lot like me really [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 Chris, the IPA is one of my favorite kits. The first time you make it do exactly what it says on the side of the can. Next time around you'll have some ideas to modify it to your tastes. I'm referring to the brew master series IPA of course. [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasM Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I agree. The S-05 American Ale yeast always works well for me as well. I like the taste of all the beers I made with this yeast. When making English Ales, I prefer the Munton's Gold Yeast over the S-04. The Coopers Yeast cultivated from the Pale Ale stubbies is the best, for sure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lettuce Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I'm planning on doing an English Bitter (hopefully something like Fullers London Pride if anyone has any hints). I was planning on using the English Bitter tin, some crystal malt, LDM, golding hops and until I found this post the S-04 yeast, reading this it looks a bit average. Should I stick with the kit yeast or is there another ale yeast that's recommended (preferably one that can be pitched directly into the wort). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I used the S-04 yeast for my English Bitter and had no problems at all. I used 1kg LDM, 250g of Medium Crystal Malt and East Kent Golding hops. It is one of my favourite beers that I have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigsALE Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I used the 04 yeast on english bitter. Its been in the bottle for 4 weeks so will be trying this weekend. Good thing about this yeast at this time of year I am sure it is quite cool, that it will ferment down to 15 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I've got a brewing fridge hooked up to a Tempmate and a heat pad so the outside temps don't worry me anymore[cool] Just set it and leave it. It's one of the best things I have done for my brewing set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 IMO saf-04 is great for any english ale recipes (so it being called so) did a "psuedo lager" with one once using a can of coopers euro larger, BE2, Amarillo dry hop & 300grams of amber malt, was the best crowd pleaser I've ever brewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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