Luke Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I'm doing a cider, and the brew shop guy said, 'Use your ale yeast starter instead of the packet.' So, Wyeast 1056 American ale yeast is going into this brew. What's the difference between cider & ale yeast? If any? Thanks, Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Smurto Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 cider yeast has a higher attenuation so will ferment almost all of the sugar whereas ale yeast have on average, a 75% attenuation (this is variable) so will leave some sweetness in the cider. Not to mention the fact that ale yeast produce much different esters during fermentation. Am going to make a ginger beer using an ale yeast instead of a champagne yeast for these reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Well this brew is going like a freight train! I made it up to 21 lt and added 1.5kg's of dextrose for a SG of 1.042. The krausen has reached the glad wrap! Will be racking on the weekend. Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 I racked the cider on Sunday, but only had an SG of 1.024. That's only 2.5% by my calculations! :( I'm thinking this is the 75% attenuation of the ale yeast? Anyway, the sample tasted very nice and still should be an ok batch. I'm going to keep it in the secondary for 2 weeks so it might drop by another point or two in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Smurto Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Whats your ingredients? 1024 is way too high! For a rough guide go to - http://www.brewcraft.com.au/wa.asp?idWe ... etails=120 plug in your details. Its a rough guide only but it does give you help working out your potential alc % and what OG to look for. Cheers DrSmurto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Whats your ingredients? 1024 is way too high! Yeah, I know! I had a very healthy ferment too! I used the cider kit + 1.5 kgs dex. That calculator says I should be around the 7.3% mark. The yeast is still active, I have some small bubbling happening. Maybe I cocked up OG reading. :oops: Maybe the yeast has finished and the bubbling is Co2 coming out from the racking? The temp in Melbourne has been pretty high over the last week, but the brew has been a constant 26 deg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Smurto Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Just leave it for a while - i have left beer in primary for 3-4 weeks and secondary probably even longer. As long as your sanitation is up to scratch its not an issue. You may have racked a tad early and now have a stuck fermentation. Give the fermenter a bit of a jiggle to stir up the yeast (yes, i realise that cancels out racking, but only temporarily). If the gravity hasnt dropped in a few more day then you may need to add more yeast. If you bottle it now you will have bombs. Hope that helped?! Cheers DrSmurto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Been 4 weeks now! SG 1.014. Bottling tomorrow. Sanitation must be ok, tastes teriffic! I'll only be using 1/4 the norm of priming sugar. Longest brew so far! Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Most commercial sparkling ciders I have tasted seem to have high levels of CO2?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Just being cautious..... I've had a few cider grenades in the past! :roll: Glass embedded in the plaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Probably a very good reason to use PETs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 KEGS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'm limited to only 1 keg :( , but hopefully will pick up a couple of reco jobs for my b'day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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