Mags Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hey guys just wondering your opinion on this recipe. Looking for something along the lines of Fat Yak but doesn't need to be spot on. Coopers Pale Ale 1kg LDME 250g WDME 250g Dex 15g Cascade @20mins 20g Nelson Sav @15mns 10g Cascade @0mins 10g Nelson Sav @0mins 25g Cascade dry hopped Probably way off on my hops but open to recommendations. [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien E1 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Your hop schedule looks roughly in line with what's on Matilda Bay's own site: http://www.matildabay.com/our-beer/fat-yak#/our-beer/fat-yak/the-craft There's a few recipies around the web if you want to search for them, but I reckon you're on the right track there. Good to see plenty of malt and not too much dextrose, but I'm not sure if Fat Yak has any wheat in it. If it does, stick with that, but if not, you might consider subbing the wheat malt for crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanS8 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 G'day Mags, your recipe looks ok to me. Try this one, its along the lines of the Yak, very nice it is. 2 Coopers LME 250g LDM 125g Munich malt steeped for 20 mins 40g Fuggles @40 10g Fuggles @10 15g Nelson Sauvin @10 6g Tettnanger dry hopped 24 hrs before bottling 1 Safale 04 23 litres Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien E1 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 G'day Mags, your recipe looks ok to me. Try this one, its along the lines of the Yak, very nice it is. 2 Coopers LME 250g LDM 125g Munich malt steeped for 20 mins 40g Fuggles @40 10g Fuggles @10 15g Nelson Sauvin @10 10g Tettnanger dry hopped 1 Safale 04 23 litres Good luck. There's no Fuggles or Tettnanger in Fat Yak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 G'day Mags, your recipe looks ok to me. Try this one, its along the lines of the Yak, very nice it is. 2 Coopers LME 250g LDM 125g Munich malt steeped for 20 mins 40g Fuggles @40 10g Fuggles @10 15g Nelson Sauvin @10 10g Tettnanger dry hopped 1 Safale 04 23 litres Good luck. Sorry Brendan but I disagree. Even though I haven't done this recipe it would be nothing like a Fat Yak. You have an English Yeast with German, New Zealand and English hops. Off the top of my head a Fatty would go more along the lines of: 1.7kg Coopers Pale Ale 1kg LDM 250g Dextrose 200g Light Crystal or wheat 15g Cascade @ 10 minutes 15g Nelson Sauvin @ 10 minutes 15g Nelson Sauvin @ 0 minutes 15g Cascade Dry US-05 Yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT5 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 +1 for that Bill. I put down a brew on Saturday with that exact hop schedule. I used an OS Draught kit though, as that's what I had in stock. From what I have read on forums it should come out fairly close to a Yak (except for maybe subbing a Pale Ale can for the Draught). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanS8 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 OK, i now know that Fat Yak doesn't use Fuggles, Tettnanger or Safale, however, the recipe i used, which was given to me by a long time brewer, did actually come close to the real thing IMO. And, i thought my brew tasted nicer. I've done it twice now. Maybe it was the combination of the yeast and hops or the variation in the brew room temps (14-20 degrees roughly) while fermenting back before i had decent temperature control. Don't know[unsure] Anyhow, thats my story and i'm sticking to it [rightful] Had to make an edit on the Tettnanger, if anyones interested[biggrin] Happy brewing Gents, Brendan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 As long as it tastes good, that's all that really matters. I often try to make a clone but don't quite get there. The beer is still good though. Now instead of tellling people it's a clone I will say "It's in the style of ....". It gives you a bit more of a licence to tweak it (or get it wrong) so you can add Tettnanger and Fuggles to a Fat Yak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I agree with hairy... nevertheless, I didn't say it wouldn't be a nice tasting beer just pointed out that it is nothing like a Yak. I may even try that recipe myself but I'm not fond of 04 yeast so may sub it with US05 instead [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***** Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Now instead of tellling people it's a clone I will say "It's in the style of ....". quote] +1 Hairy and Bill I say " a brew you can compare to a Fat Yak", no one can argue with that no matter how much you miss the mark by [pinched] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanS8 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 "in the style of..." In the words of Mr Burns "exellent Smithers" [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Now instead of tellling people it's a clone I will say "It's in the style of ....". quote] +1 Hairy and Bill I say " a brew you can compare to a Fat Yak", no one can argue with that no matter how much you miss the mark by [pinched] I just say, it was supposed to be a Fat Yak but I stuffed up [pinched] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 G'day Mags, your recipe looks ok to me. Try this one, its along the lines of the Yak, very nice it is. 2 Coopers LME 250g LDM 125g Munich malt steeped for 20 mins 40g Fuggles @40 10g Fuggles @10 15g Nelson Sauvin @10 10g Tettnanger dry hopped 1 Safale 04 23 litres Good luck. Sorry Brendan but I disagree. Even though I haven't done this recipe it would be nothing like a Fat Yak. You have an English Yeast with German, New Zealand and English hops. Off the top of my head a Fatty would go more along the lines of: 1.7kg Coopers Pale Ale 1kg LDM 250g Dextrose 200g Light Crystal or wheat 15g Cascade @ 10 minutes 15g Nelson Sauvin @ 10 minutes 15g Nelson Sauvin @ 0 minutes 15g Cascade Dry US-05 Yeast Bill, I tried that exact recipe. I have just pitched the yeast and took my OG. It tasted OK. It seemed to be bitter and lacked any fruity flavour. Will this come with the final hop addition when I dry hop cascade? By all means doesn't taste bad but I want same bitterness/maybe little less but little more fruity like Yak. Could be my method was wrong. I boiled cascade/nelson for 10 mins, took off heat added more nelson sav and let it cool. I am sure I haven't done anything wrong? [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I think next time I will subsitute the pale ale for a lager as my previous brew using cascade and lager kit had a wonderful bitter/fruity flavour [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Mags, your method seems fine. And I don't think that changing the kit from the Pale Ale to the Lager will increase the 'fruitiness'. The lager kit is slightly more bitter but nothing too noticeable. The main difference would be the malt profile of the two. I think the Pale Ale kit has some wheat malt in it too. Anyway, just wait until you dry hop it and give it time. The end product tends to taste very different to the taste at the start; which is usually very sweet due to the unfermented sugar. After that you can tinker with it for your next brew and add more hops if desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Mags - I took that recipe only from "the top of my head" and from what I thought I could recall without doing the research. Nevertheless, dry hopping the Cascade will bring it close to what you maybe after. As with all beer it will need a little time in the bottle to mellow a little but the wait should be worth it. Try this after about 6-8 weeks. You can always tweak it to suit yourself in time to come but at least this should give you a good base start :) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Absolute disaster with this brew. I didn't give it the attention I should of and I believe the brewing temps may have got too high the other weekend along with some other issues. Brew tasted/smelled good pre-dry hop. After dry hopping temp control wasn't at it's best and last night I took a sample and it tasted a bit watery/smelled like paint thinner/vinegar. I racked to a secondary and the colour is beautiful. It smells better than in the primary but still watery and wine like. I am finding it hard to put my finger on describing it. Anyway I will proceed to bottle even though it may be a waste of time. It's either poor temp control or bacteria in the FV causing the off taste/smell. Or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Oh dear, what a shame. Sorry to hear about the disaster, it is generally a nice brew when brewed successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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