PB2 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 So I had an empty keg and was looking to make a light ale for Christmas day, so the relatives don't get too silly (early) [roll] I had no time to brew an all-grain and I had no beer kits handy. [pinched] What to do....decided on using Light Dry Malt....here's the recipe: 1.5kg Light Dry Malt 100g Crystal Malt grain 25g Centennial Hop Pellets (boil) 20g Nelson Sauvin Pellets (flame-out) 25g Nelson Sauvin (dry Hop) 500g of Light Dry Malt brought to the boil in 4 litres of water. Add centennial hops for 30mins Add cracked Crystal Malt - grains shouldn't be boiled because of the possible tannin extraction but 100g can't hurt, just 1 minute to pasteurise butnot too much to extract an offensive level of tannins [rightful] [innocent] Off the boil and add 20g NS hops Mix with the other 1kg of Light Dry Malt in the FV and bring up to 21 litres. Ferment close to 20C, I used Mexican Cerveza yeast but any ale yeast that you like could be used. [biggrin] Dry hop with the remaining 25g Nelson Sauvin Hops pellets. I dropped this into keg with a couple of left-over PETs. Tasted a PET today - yeah baby [love] that's 1hr of mixing time well spent - this beer jumps out of the glass with a blend of sweet floral aromatics while the flavour carries through from mouthful to mouthful. Would never pick it as low alcohol and who cares, anyway [joyful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I'm salivating now Paul and it is certainly not from the cereal I'm eating - That sounds pretty good [love] I'm a fan of Centennial but am yet to try Nelson Sauvin. Maybe I'll steal your recipe but go the full nelson (or maybe a mid nelson - not really a fan of light beers [rightful] ) Thanks for sharing [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Paul or Muddy, about this Half Nelson of Paul\u2019s how much Dex would it need to get it to a 3/4 Nelson say 4 to 4.5%? [innocent] Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 I didn't measure alcohol on this recipe but an addition of 500g of Dextrose should bring it up to the low 4% mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Paul was the 1/2 Nelson a 23 L Brew? Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 21 litres, as per the original post [whistling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 In that case wouldn't the Half Nelson be 10.5L [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yea, Paul I should read more carefully. Muddy. if a half nelson is 10.5. What\u2019s a hammer lock? Stick that in your \u201cbeersmith thingo and see if you can come up with a formula! Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Beersmith reports extreme bitterness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulM1111 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 With the footy season fast approaching this recipe is looking good to have a crack at (so I don't get too silly watching the Pies go back to back.... [rightful] ) I do have a couple of questions... I don't have Centennial on hand - could I swap this with Cascade? I would guess this would come out more like fat yak then?? Also how long would you leave this in the bottle before ripping into it? It's mighty hoppy brew - I would say early on it would be pretty bitter? Cheers and beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have this brew on tap at the mo' - very excellent[love] Replacing Centennial with Cascade will result in a slightly less bitter brew - you could be drinking this brew after one week in the bottle. Tastes great straight out of the FV, prior to bottling. [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulM1111 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I am a little frightened about how bitter this will be.. Was thinking of maybe backing off the hops to something like this: 20g cascade 20 min 10g nelson 20 min 15g nelson 0 min Or should I do it as per recipe - would there be much difference? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 i would say it wouldnt be that bitter with those amounts of hops. PB2, can you remember what the AA% of the Centennial was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 ANy of the centennial I've used is 8.7% Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 based on the Centennial being 8.7%, this brew should be around 12IBU - which is not very bitter. thats based of 21 litres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Going by taste, I would say the Half Nelson, is around the mid 20's IBU?? Might bring some in to analyse, just for the sake of interest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 i'd be interested to know what it came out to be [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 1.5kg Light Dry Malt 100g Crystal Malt grain 25g Centennial Hop Pellets (boil) 20g Nelson Sauvin Pellets (flame-out) 25g Nelson Sauvin (dry Hop) Paul - I reckon it's time for me to give the Nelson Sauvin hops a go and thought I'd give your recipe a whirl. However, I want to lose the "Light" from "Light Nelson Ale" and up the LDM to 2.5kg. Do you reckon this would do it justice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 It should go okay [biggrin] Might need to increase the hop addition in the boil to 30g, to help balance against the residual sweetness from the extra malt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks Paul [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFrankel Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I was wondering if this recipe would work using a can of light liquid malt and 500grms of dextrose instead of the 1.5kg of LDME? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I was wondering if this recipe would work using a can of light liquid malt and 500grms of dextrose instead of the 1.5kg of LDME? Cheers Not exactly. Don't use the Dextrose and use 1.875kg Liquid Malt and it should be the same. Or.... You could always use the can of LME (1.5kg) and only 250g dextrose. Although this won't be the same it will be pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hi Mark, I agree with Bill. You really should have more malt in the brew than 1.5 Kg. I think it would be a bit too thin. Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFrankel Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 cheers gents. I was trying to get away with what I had in the cupboard as SWMBO may say something if I bought home extra ingredients... Oh well no option now I just get more malt when I am picking up the hops [devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Well then, to keep SWMBO happy, I would do the alternative I gave you, which you already have. i.e 1 can of LME and 250g dex. It wont be exactly the same but there wont be a lot of difference and it will still be a nice drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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