DavidB25 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Hey Guys, I'm ready to try my fourth brew and would appreciate your input. I've successfuly completed: Aust Larger, IPA & Aust Stout(currently aging). After reading lots of "blogs" and receipes from this website over the last several months I'm ready to try a brew with a little "punch" to it: 1.7k Coopers Aust Larger 1.5k Coopers Light Malt Extract 1.0K Coopers Dextrose 1.0K local honey 2pkgs of yeast 23L of water Using a Coopers brewing fermenter. Yours thoughts are appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Whoa! That looks like it will have more than a little punch to it. What will it be - 9 to 10% alcohol? That one probably does qualify as a "Larger" beer.[devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Wow, that does seem a bit on the larger side. What kind of beer are you hoping to make? A strong one obviously [lol] - It'll definately have punch but whether it is drinkable is another question entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardC2 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 1kg each of dextrose & honey is a touch much. If the honey is added to the boil kettle,it'll ferment out too much. The combination of the 2 will make for a drier brew. That's fine,if that is your intention. Otherwise,I'd at least add the honey in secondary,or towards the end of primary to keep some of the honey flavor. You could even leave out the honey,& steep 8oz (226.8g) of honey malt (make sure it's cracked 1st)in 1L of water at 160F (about 71C) for 30 minutes. This will give you more honey flavor than the real thing without drying your beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB25 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thanks to all for your feedback. I think I will back off on the honey and maybe some of the malt as well. Will I need both packs of yeast?[innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB25 Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Just a clarifcation on the two packs of yeast: One is the Coopers lager yeast(7g) that comes with the can of lager concentrate. My second pack is Wyeast Activator 2035-American Lager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 David, the Coopers Lager kit that you are using, is that the original series lager? If so, the yeast that comes with that kit is an ale yeast. If your intention is to make a lager then I would go with the Wyeast lager yeast. The Wyeast website states that the Activator packs are sufficient for worts up to an SG of 1.060. You were planning on making a mighty brew so you may have to make a starter and step it up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB25 Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Thanks Hairy, the SG wort calculator with the ingredients I intend to brew comes out to approximately 1065 so I'll back off the liquid malt extract just a bit and I should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Or you could leave the malt as it is and back off the dextrose a bit. This would reduce your percentage of simple sugar in the wort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 +1 to backing off the Dextrose as Hairy suggested. Maybe even take it out altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB25 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Thanks again Hairy and to BillK for the advice...I will cut back on the dextrose instead of the malt. I'm sure this will produce a much more satisfying beer rather than one with a "punch" that may not be "drinkable"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB25 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hey Hairy, just curious as to why the Coopers Lager Kit comes with an "ale" yeast instead of a Lager yeast?!!! Does this turn it into a "Ale/Lager" instead of a "pure" lager? Or does it turn into an Ale and not a lager at all? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 That's probably a question for PB2. I guess its because most new brewers start with that kit and they may struggle with temp control. The ale yeast ferments at higher temperatures. If you are using an ale yeast with the kit then you are making an ale. Here is a link to the yeasts in each kit. Coopers Kit Yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The fact that the Lager kit comes with an Ale yeast is a conundrum that constantly rears it's ugly head here and just about anywhere else Coopers is discussed. I believe the rationale behind confusingly offering an ale yeast with the OS Lager is that the average Australian Joe Blow brewer will find it hard to brew a true lager at true lager temps due to our climate. There we go - Clear as mud [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien E1 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The fact that the Lager kit comes with an Ale yeast is a conundrum that constantly rears it's ugly head here and just about anywhere else Coopers is discussed. I believe the rationale behind confusingly offering an ale yeast with the OS Lager is that the average Australian Joe Blow brewer will find it hard to brew a true lager at true lager temps due to our climate. There we go - Clear as mud [lol] Wouldn't be a problem here in winter, my bedroom gets down to 10 degrees if I let it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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