Michael Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 hey guys just wondering if i could make a beer without the cooper cans? as in buying/growing the ingredients that are in the coopers cans. I pritty much want to make my own unique beer any suggestions? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC5 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Look up all grain brewing. http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com has some good info. Basically you mash the grains yourself, so you get a very huge amount of possibilities that you can brew. Or you can grow some hops and barley, then malt the barley and then all grain with that. However, i just buy grains from the LHBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks ill check it out. I wanna make a beer that i can really call my own [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kearnage Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 If you want to walk before running, you could try an extract brew first, that is use dry or liquid malt extracts and do a boil with your favourite hops to get the correct bitterness and aroma. All grain brews take a fair bit of equipment and some know-how (ie I don't know how yet!) Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Michael, Remember this is a Coopers site and all advice is given around Coopers products. If you wish to make beer from something other than Coopers then you should be looking elsewhere, there are plenty of sites on the web, just Google "homebrew". [roll] Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 You can make some fine extract brews using Coopers products Warren [rightful] . You'll have to get your hops elsewhere of course though. A bit early to be giving Micahel his marching orders [lol] Michael, like Dan said, have a go at an extract brew. You can make an amazing beer with a couple of can of Coopers Malt extract (or the dry equivalent) and some hops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I remember when homebrewing was still illegal.(in SA anyway), I lived in the bush and we used to go around the farms wiring up houses ready for the power, a lot of the cockies started brewing their own and of course they all thought they had a winner....well some were Ok but man, was there some nasty stuff amongst it! I remember one bloke tipping a bottle down the sink and I am bloody sure I could see smoke rising off the stainless steel! No kits or homebrew shops around then. In short if you are dinkum about making a brew from scratch it is certainly possible, however, you may waste a lot of stuff before you get one that works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Do a couple of recipes first before you start developing your own unique beer. Neill's Centenarillo Ale on AHB is a good starting point (and a pretty bloody good beer [love] ) or Dr Smurto's Golden Ale (also on AHB) is another good one. The recipe here is for all grain but you'll find extract instructions (or a kit version) down in the notes. Go for it you wont regret it [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusty1 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I remember when homebrewing was still illegal.(in SA anyway)' date=' I lived in the bush and we used to go around the farms wiring up houses ready for the power, a lot of the cockies started brewing their own and of course they all thought they had a winner....well some were Ok but man, was there some nasty stuff amongst it! I remember one bloke tipping a bottle down the sink and I am bloody sure I could see smoke rising off the stainless steel! No kits or homebrew shops around then. In short if you are dinkum about making a brew from scratch it is certainly possible, however, you may waste a lot of stuff before you get one that works![/quote'] We can thank the great man Gough[love] for making home brew legal[kissing] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ah, so Gough did one good thing during his short but very expensive term as our leader, probably though he had better so we could afford to drink legally after he sent the country into a spiraling debt in a record short time...even for a labour prime minister, Ruddy tried to catch him but Julia cut him off at the pass![rightful] (I actually met Gough at the tent embassy in Canberra in the early 70's didn't like him much then either!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffH1 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 C'mon mate, not interested in seventy's politics, I'm only interested in in beer. Please respond to my earlier post. I'm just a newby. Appreciate the help. Thank you in advance. Jethro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weggl Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Muddy, PB2 commented a few days ago that a line needed to be drawn. I believe he was saying that if the talk is about other products and i dont mean add ons like hops etc, then stop. Maybe I read him wrong, lets see if he has anything to say? I was not trying to give him marching orders but just pointing out thee site is about Coopers. I often go to other sites to find out things not mentioned here. Don't tell anybody though.[rightful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Dr Smurto's Golden Ale[/url] (also on AHB) is another good one. Can vouch for the Dr's GA, a very nice drop, only made it once...nice reminder to make it again! relies on the coopers products though, assume the OP means making without cans?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 G'day Michael, before jumping into all grain brewing, it's not a bad idea to get cleaning/sanitation, temperature control, yeast management, specialty grains, hop usage, etc. sorted out. You'll need extra equipment and have to commit more time to the process, clear a window of 8hrs for your first attempt.[pinched] Happy to help you through the process on this forum - it's all about the beer[biggrin] [biggrin] There may be brewers on this forum who live close enough to you to show you, first hand, how it's done (you haven't filled in your location in the LH column). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 So i can mix 2 differant types of cooper cans in a brew to get somthing differant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Michael Yep Two cans (Toucan[love] ) is common round these parts!! Try searching TOUCAN in the search function below right (FYI I recomend the smoty[love] [love] [love] [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hey Jethro! you don't seem to have posted an earlier post in this thread....what do you want to know?...Hey and don't get too excited about the banter on here mate, it is all in good fun...whoever you barrack for![cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng12 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So i can mix 2 differant types of cooper cans in a brew to get somthing differant? Im brewing a toucan Draught at the moment nearly ready to bottle. Original series draught that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty A Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So i can mix 2 differant types of cooper cans in a brew to get somthing differant? I have just created the toucan stout (dark ale and stout can) tasted beautiful out of the fermenter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatR1 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 G'day Michael, before jumping into all grain brewing, it's not a bad idea to get cleaning/sanitation, temperature control, yeast management, specialty grains, hop usage, etc. sorted out. You'll need extra equipment and have to commit more time to the process, clear a window of 8hrs for your first attempt.[pinched] I agree with getting the basics down pat but I'll have to disagree with the second comment of extra equipment & 8 hours (Sorry PB2 [innocent] ) Check out BIAB or "Brew in a bag". Look at BIABrewer.info and AHB. This will get you into AG at a very minimal cost. If you have a big pot all you need is a bag. Also check out "No chill". A brew takes me 4hrs from start to finish including clean up. & it only takes that long because of the element Wattage in my kettle. Could prob reduce it to 3hrs if I upped my element size. Maybe start with a partial / mini mash (part AG / part extract)and see if you like it. Cheers, Mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Maybe I misinterpreted the original question posed by Micheal, I gleaned from his first post that he wanted to try his own ingredients, methods etc, not mix 2 cans or use wet packs or pre mixed bags or kits of any kind, that would explain why I posted the story about pre legal home brewing and why Paul advised an 8 hour window. Sure you can trim that down if you used some pre packed, tried and tested methods but that is not what the question related to. As other forum members have suggested, I would recommend aproaching that with caution, at least until he had quite a bit more experience under his belt! I am not sure what ingredients were used or where they came from in those pre legal days, but as I said, there were some pretty rough brews came of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kearnage Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Maybe a Manglewurzel beer is the go? Manglewurzel beer (see the post-script) Now I just need to rustle up 60 pounds of manglewurzel, the rest sounds easy! [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'll have to disagree with the second comment of extra equipment & 8 hours Extra equipment is required. [rightful] There is no doubt that, with experience, one can become more efficient with process and reduce the time significantly. Yes, my brewing process takes about 4hrs too, assuming I don't have any accidents [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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