Grumpy Doug Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Kloud beer from South Korea says it is gravity brewed without water. " Proudly formulating a water free recipe from the traditional German beer brewing style". What the hell are they talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Well when I drink 6 high gravity beers I tend to fall over a lot ....otherwise I think something is lost in translation mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 No idea, tried googling it but nothing of any detail comes up other than what you've said there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quokka Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Gravity is an illusion caused by lack of beer (that was actually one of the Physics department T-Shirts an my uni.) Wine is supposed to always be made solely from grape juice - perhaps they are rephrasing that they only brew from freshly mashed wort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Yeah but obviously you still need water to create the wort in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quokka Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Yeah, but no-one likes water in their beer - unless the choices are letting rain get in your beer or not drinking. I don't speak any Korean, and it may just be that "pure" translates as "free." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy-o Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I drank a bunch of this at a restaurant in K-town and it was great. I think it's just a dumb mistranslation that's been regurgitated from the importer by the Australian retailers; the Korean webpage phrases it like this (using google translate): The original gravity method is a manufacturing method that puts 100% fermented undiluted solution into the product in addition to the fermented beer stock solution, and is adopted by the premium beer of countries that pursue Germany and authentic beer. Hard to say without knowing Korean and it might just be pseudotechnical garbage anyway. But it sounds like they're just talking about not diluting the beer once it's fermented. Unless the reference is to krausening... (edit: actually, that makes a lot of sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 True but water isn't added to beer except in the case of brews being done more concentrated (higher gravity and bitterness) then diluted afterwards to the target profile. It's still the same amount of water though, just added later rather than at the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quokka Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Actually, I think most commercial swill is boiled at normal concentration, then diluted with water and sugar added before fermentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I think you're right. I'm sure there is some dilution going on in the process somewhere, whether it be at pitching time or after fermentation. I suppose doing it after fermentation would allow them to brew bigger batches in the same size fermenting tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix76 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Think you may be right Kelsey. Adding water to commercial beer. No wonder so much of it tastes like cats piss. Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quokka Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I drank a bunch of this at a restaurant in K-town and it was great. I think it's just a dumb mistranslation that's been regurgitated from the importer by the Australian retailers; the Korean webpage phrases it like this (using google translate): The original gravity method is a manufacturing method that puts 100% fermented undiluted solution into the product in addition to the fermented beer stock solution' date=' and is adopted by the premium beer of countries that pursue Germany and authentic beer.[/quote'] Hard to say without knowing Korean and it might just be pseudotechnical garbage anyway. But it sounds like they're just talking about not diluting the beer once it's fermented. Unless the reference is to krausening... (edit: actually, that makes a lot of sense) I just re read this and realised they are saying they add unfermented wort to the finished beer! It would work provided it was pasterurised, but you are going to end up with a pretty sweet, malty beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy-o Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I drank a bunch of this at a restaurant in K-town and it was great. I think it's just a dumb mistranslation that's been regurgitated from the importer by the Australian retailers; the Korean webpage phrases it like this (using google translate): The original gravity method is a manufacturing method that puts 100% fermented undiluted solution into the product in addition to the fermented beer stock solution' date=' and is adopted by the premium beer of countries that pursue Germany and authentic beer.[/quote'] Hard to say without knowing Korean and it might just be pseudotechnical garbage anyway. But it sounds like they're just talking about not diluting the beer once it's fermented. Unless the reference is to krausening... (edit: actually, that makes a lot of sense) I just re read this and realised they are saying they add unfermented wort to the finished beer! It would work provided it was pasterurised, but you are going to end up with a pretty sweet, malty beer. I do think they're talking about krausening - you're kind of right, but that unfermented wort is added at the end as it's becoming active, and allowed to ferment out. It helps finish the beer off in a traditional manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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