JosephR Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I need some recipe advice all! I live overseas, and will be moving back home soon, and promised my wife I wouldn\u2019t be ordering any more supplies(shipping is expensive). I have about 6 months, should be enough time to get one more brew in, but I'll be working with just what I have on hand. All I have on hand as far as Malt goes is 2 traditional Draughts prehopped. The recipe I originally got it for is the coopers strong ale, and it supposed to be 6% abv and have strong cascade characteristics. Anyone have any ideas on how to make the following into an IPA?(In Italy, it is impossible to find an IPA, and I very much miss them) I am not really sure If It is possible to make these no boil items into 60 minute boils?? I know these kits are unnexessary to boil, but will it do them any harm? I am also unaware on how to add up the IBU's?? Anyone willing to take a shot and put the following into a 50 IBU 6-6.5% ABV recipe? On hand.... Fermentables: 2 x 3.5lb coopers traditional Draught prehopped 1/2 lb light dry malt 1/2 lb amber candy sugar 1 lb D-90 syrup 1/2 pack(think its a 1/2 kg) Brew enhancer 1 Honey! Hops: 4 oz Cascade leaf (6%) 1 oz Chinook Pellet(11.8%) 1 oz Millennium Pellet(14%) 1/2 oz Hallertau Pellet(7.2%) 3/4oz New Zealand Motueka Pellet(7.1%) Yeast: Safbrew S-33 2X Nottingham Coopers Lager Coopers Ale So, any opinions? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I started trying to help but got sick of trying to convert the weights [bandit] Plus I don't know squat anyway [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 You could do a toucan brew with the 2 Coopers Draught kits to achieve the bitterness without a hop boil. Made to 23 litres, the two draught kits will give you an IBU of 62 (I think). Then add your hops of choice for flavour & aroma. I haven't tried a Draught toucan so I can't comment on the taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephR Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 AdamH : I realized as I was posting it I should have made it into Metric but was unable to take the time at that time, so here that is: 2 x 1.7kg coopers traditional Draught prehopped .227kg light dry malt .227kg amber candy sugar .454kg D-90 syrup .500kg Brew enhancer 1 Honey, brown sugar, rolled oats etc etc. Hops: 113g Cascade leaf(6%) 28g Chinook Pellet(11.8%) 28g Millennium Pellet(14%) 14g Hallertau Pellet(7.2%) 21g New Zealand Motueka Pellet(7.1%) Yeast: Safbrew S-33 2X Nottingham Coopers Lager Coopers Ale Hairy: Ok, so 2 cans of draught will have a decent amount of bitterness to it already from what I am reading(had no clue what toucan brew meant), think I'll toss a few more fermentables in it to increase some malt, as well as make a fairly strong hop tea for flavor and aroma. I was very curious about the effects of boiling these no boil kits, but from reading I think i discovered it just boils off some of the hop presence, which I could always just add a little more at the beginning of the boil if I wanted to, but I think I just decided to make some tea with my little bit of DME. Thank you both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtownClown Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Both cans plus the BE1, LDME & Candi Sugar. All the Motueka & all the Chinook in a 2 litre 1.040 boil for 15 mins. Both packs of the Nottingham Will give you a nice big, hoppy American style IPA. Bulk prime with 150grams Dextrose/Sugar Approx - 6% ABV, OG 1.058, FG 1.015, IBU 54. If you're game, you could chuck in some (or all) the Cascade as a dry hop.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtownClown Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Also, don't boil the kits. Just boil all the LDME in 2 litres water. When it begins to boil, add the hops and boil for 15 mins (do not turn your back on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephR Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Hey! Thanks Newtown, but I actually just got some clarification on the 2 kit set up. Apparently 2 kits, IE 2x draughts are considered toucan brews, and tend to turn out quite bitter. Each can has 32 IBU's, So ive completely ignore what I said earlier about not buying anything, and ordered 500g of Crystal malt 40(needed a capper anyway).... Dont know yet how much I will use, but think it could balance out the bitterness a little bit. Was thinking a little like this 2x Draught 1lb(.484 KG Crystal Malt) .24 DME .484 kg of the D-90 And hops hops hops! I might actually take your hop proposal, Maybe 25 Chinook and 15 Mouteka, then dry with the cascade. Whatcha think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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