peterw20 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hi, would anyone have a recipe for a Southwark Stout clone? i may be the only person on here who drinks it lol, or tries to, as it's impossible to get up here in Gove, cheers Snappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 This beer is 7.4%ABV [w00t] and perhaps fermented with lager yeast?? [unsure] I tasted it several years ago and remember it showed coffee/chocolate aromas, slippery mouthfeel with moderate bitterness. Don't know much more about it than that [whistling You might get something near the mark with: 1.7kg OS Stout kit 1.5kg TC Amber Malt 300g Roasted Barley 1kg Dextrose Made to 20 litres and fermented with a lager yeast. Edit: Now I've had a sleep on it, perhaps the OS Stout kit will produce too high a bitterness level... Another option might be: 1.7kg OS Dark Ale beer kit 1.5kg TC Dark Malt 300g Roasted Barley 1kg Dextrose made to 20 litres and fermented at 15C with a lager yeast. [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw20 Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 PB2 thanks for the reply, i think i'll try both of those recipe's, i just bottled my milk stout so i've an empty pot to fill, the milk stout smelt and tasted nice, will be interesting to try in 8 weeks or so, cheers Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB2 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hi PB2 Your second suggestion looks similar to a Tuocan (Stout/Dark Ale) with the added dextrose to get to 7.4% Do you really believe it will come anywhere near the taste of a Southwark Stout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 TBH, I don't think he would have suggested it if he doesn't think it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Your second suggestion looks similar to a Tuocan (Stout/Dark Ale) with the added dextrose to get to 7.4% Do you really believe it will come anywhere near the taste of a Southwark Stout? err, no. The second recipe includes a Dark Ale Beer kit and Dark Malt (unhopped malt extract). This is quite different to a Stout/Dark Ale toucan. I think it will be closer than the first recipe. However, I haven't analysed the commercial version, tasted it recently or fermented the suggested recipes. A bit of guesswork. [biggrin] This is why I used words like "perhaps", "might" and "don't know much more about it"... Having said all that, I reckon the second recipe would be worth making. If it doesn't come out like Southwark Old Stout, it should still be a nice brew. [wink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB2 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thanks for the reply PB2. I've been drinking both Coopers Best Extra and Southwark stouts for a long as I can remember and both have very distinctive (and different) tastes. I've also been a K&K brewer for over 20 years, and realise that getting close to any original is an almost impossible task. But I live in hope and still keep trying. BTW, the best success I ever had was a simple recipe from a now defunct local home brew shop which copied Cascade Premium Lager. The recipe was: 1.7kg Jad's Draught 1 Bodybrew 8g POR (Standard Method) 1 Lager Yeast The problem is finding a similar can to the Jad's as this product has not been available for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyW Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I used to brew alot of stouts and porters (seems never the same one twice [roll] )before i gave brewing away and i drink mainly Coopers Best Extra and have done for many many years, but anything that has Stout on a pack i am into it. Didnt mind the Cascade Export when i was down touring Tassie last March. Some/all of the recipes above look like they are worth a crack thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 BTW, the best success I ever had was a simple recipe from a now defunct local home brew shop which copied Cascade Premium Lager. The recipe was: 1.7kg Jad's Draught 1 Bodybrew 8g POR (Standard Method) 1 Lager Yeast The problem is finding a similar can to the Jad's as this product has not been available for a long time. Why don't you use the Cascade Premium Lager kit as a base to copy the Cascade Premium Lager?.... just makes more sence to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB2 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Why don't you use the Cascade Premium Lager kit as a base to copy the Cascade Premium Lager?.... just makes more sence to me. BTW, I believe Cascade call it the "Cascade Golden Harvest Lager" kit. For the same reason Coopers Aust Pale Ale kit doesn't approximate to Coopers Pale Ale and Coopers Stout kit recipes on this website don't approximate to Coopers Best Extra Stout. These large brewing companies are not likely to give their "secrets" away, even to homebrewers using their home brewing products. The recipe was formulated by the Home Brew shop owner by trial and error over time using slight variations that he and his customers made. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 BTW, I believe Cascade call it the "Cascade Golden Harvest Lager" kit. For the same reason Coopers Aust Pale Ale kit doesn't approximate to Coopers Pale Ale and Coopers Stout kit recipes on this website don't approximate to Coopers Best Extra Stout. These large brewing companies are not likely to give their "secrets" away, even to homebrewers using their home brewing products. The recipe was formulated by the Home Brew shop owner by trial and error over time using slight variations that he and his customers made. Cheers Yes I believe you are correct. For some reason I was thinking of the Pale Ale kit. Nevertheless, I also understand that the kits are slightly different than the real recipe which is why I said to use it as a "base", especially considering that Jad's Draught is no longer available. Even though we are now straying OT which I appologize for, looking at my LHBS website they claim a recipe nearing the Premium Lager. This being: 1 can Cascade Golden Harvest Lager 500g Dextrose 500g LDM 500g LME I haven't tried it and have no idea why they suggest using both LDM and LME but maybe it is something you can tweak to suit your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB2 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 1.7kg OS Dark Ale beer kit 1.5kg TC Dark Malt 300g Roasted Barley 1kg Dextrose made to 20 litres and fermented at 15C with a lager yeast. Thought I'd try to keep this post going by asking if anyone has had a go at the PB2 Southward stout clone recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB2 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Well I made the PB2 suggested recipe, and luckily, the weather allowed me to keep the fermentation temps close enough to 15 degC. Opened one tonight, after 19 days storage, and I'm very impressed. This is a quality clone, and thanks again PB2. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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