Slurtis Staggersalot Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 On the shelf I have; 2X Thomas Coopers selection IPA 1X Original series Real Ale 1X Original series Lager 1X International series English Bitter Several KG of Dextrose, and a 1.5 KG of LDM I've never deviated from the recipe other than substituting dextrose for LDM because I didn't have it and it was not available. I've read a bit about toucan recipes but I don't fully understand the rhyme behind the reason... Anybody care to shed some experienced light on me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Think of your second can as your "kilo" with the kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF1 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I have successfully pitched two cans + 1kg dextrose. The result comes out around 8%alc/vol. I have always used basic lager or draft cans for the mix. I figure using bitter or real ale beer may make the brew to hoppy (if that is possible) and bitter. A dry enzyme should keep the sweetness down and brew cool - long ferment. That's my 2 cans worth. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'm involuntarily fermenting at 19-22 degrees celcius. Is that too warm? I'm thinking I'll combine the real ale and the lager, an add maybe 300-500g of dextrose so that the yeast has some simple sugar to work on. Should I pitch both packets of yeast? I know that the yeast that comes in the lager kit isn't actually a lager yeast, and more is better anyways right? That's the whole theory behind 2 can recipes right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Those temps sound ok to me Mr Staggersalot. Yep, toss both the yeast packets in (Not the actual packets - you know what I mean [lol] ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share Posted May 16, 2010 Those temps sound ok to me Mr Staggersalot. Yep, toss both the yeast packets in (Not the actual packets - you know what I mean [lol] ) Too late! how do I get them back out without contaminating the brew? Do you think the real ale and the lager would make a nice combo out of the selection of cans I have to choose from? Any suggestions on a better combo? Am I on the right track with the dextrose amount? I'll be shooting for around 6% ABV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Be careful when using dry enzyme, because us home brewers can not deactivate it - potential bottle bombs!! Allow it to ferment for an extended period, don't use glass bottles and don't use too much complex sugars in the recipe (such as malt extract and maltodextrin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF1 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Too true, PB2, alot of my dry stuff has ended up in plastics, gotta be careful. However, some of my best brews (FG ~0.996) have been acclaimed as 'Brown Champagne', from glass. A better compliment (from non brew drinker folk) I cannot think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurtis Staggersalot Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Maybe I`ll hold off on experimenting until I`ve got some PET bottles to put my experiments in. I really don`t want any bottle bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenM Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Hey Paul (PB2), Is the same true if you are using diastatic extract or malted grain additions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I haven't used diastatic malt extract. I have read that the enzymatic activity in diastatic malt extract (as with malted grains) only happens between 60C and 70C (give or take a degree). This type of enzyme does not carry the same concerns as Dry Enzyme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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