GrahamB8 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 So I was looking at some 25L water containers at the weekend in the camping section ($25 a pop). Whats the procedure? I was hoping that it was a fully fermented beer racked into a sanitised and sealed container to age until a keg is free to accept it. Secondly I read bout people squeezing the air out of them, would it be also possible to purge it out with Co2? Any other 'issues' with cubing I should know about? Kegs are $40 from Craftbrew at the minute and with a $9 seal kit thats under $50/keg for that price is it worth cubing at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Cubing is mainly for All-grain brewers (not sure about kits or extracts). It's an unfermented wort that you just leave there until you're ready to ferment. The benefits of it is that the AG brewer can do a massive batch, cube a few off for later use. This cuts their brew days down by a lot as they're not brewing every 23L batch. As this is a no-chill method, bitterness is usually a lot higher in these as they settle over time. I guess you could purge the oxygen with CO2, as long as you could get it all out I guess. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB8 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 [sad] ahh ok I was hoping that I could use the method to store fermented beer so that when I transfer to the keg it would be nicely aged and ready to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Oh sorry, now that I think about it. I don't see a problem with that, it should work! But I don't keg so one of the more experienced and luckier guys should be able to answer your question properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I wouldnt use it on fermented beer. in addition to reasons above, it is a "No Chill" method whereby you can run off right from the kettle into the cube, squeeze the air out and seal, the temperature of the wort will effectivly sterilise the inside if the cube due to extended periods at a near boiling temperature. Mostly done by those of us without plate or immersion chillers. I do brew AG, but only in 23lt batches, mostly due to my keggle and mash tun size. A bigger system is on the cards soon. Yob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 +1 to Yob I have about 8 cubes and only store wort in Cubes not beer. I wouldn't suggest storing beer in cubes at all. imo you are only asking for trouble if you do. There is no reason why you can't store beer in kegs, out of the fridge though. Unless you run out of kegs of course [pinched] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Kegs are $40 from Craftbrew at the minute and with a $9 seal kit thats under $50/keg for that price is it worth cubing at all? Can you provide a link please?.. I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB8 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Wasn't a link, he gave me this information over the phone when I was looking for quotes for kegging systems last week, there un-tested, un-washed and he recommended buying a new seal kit with the purchase. The guys name is Ross 07 3823 5252 Thanks for the info regarding the cubes, I still dont really understand why its not viable but I'll take your word for it rather than make an expensive mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Id be worried primarily about oxidisation from transfer with finished beer which is of course no concern for wort. Done gently it would 'probably' be OK though dont do it on my say so, I certainly wouldnt do it. Yob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB8 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 1 no is enough, 2 no's (even a 'probably') eradicates the curiosity all together ... more kegs it has to be, I figure 4 will give me a good enough turn around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Wasn't a link, he gave me this information over the phone when I was looking for quotes for kegging systems last week, there un-tested, un-washed and he recommended buying a new seal kit with the purchase. The guys name is Ross 07 3823 5252 Thanks for the info regarding the cubes, I still dont really understand why its not viable but I'll take your word for it rather than make an expensive mistake Oh Craftbrewer you are talking about.... yeah Ross is good and knowledgable as well. However, I assume he would have given you the cheaper price if you had of bought a keg system from him. You may want to clarify this. IIRC I think his kegs (ball lock)were 4 for $240 or $70 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 1 no is enough' date=' 2 no's (even a 'probably') eradicates the curiosity all together ... more kegs it has to be, I figure 4 will give me a good enough turn around[/quote'] lol 4... that's what I thought. I now have 13 and am looking to get another 2 or 3 soon [innocent] Re cubes, you may get away with it a few times but to me the risk of storing beer in them is too high so personally I wouldn't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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