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Hi there, I recently bought the Coopers Recipe of the Month ESVA '16 which is bubbling away as i type. Looking around the site i found tasting notes for the commercial version and noticed they mentioned it includes 5 varieties of hops of which only 2 of these are used in the home brew version plus1 different one! The commercial variety uses Astra, Melba, Northern Brewer, Styrian Goldings & Cascade while the home brew version uses Northern Brewer, Melba & Topaz.

 

Just wondering if anyone can tell me why this would be so?

 

Thanks in anticipation

 

Cheers

 

Dale

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We couldn't get sufficient supply of Astra, due to them being pre-sold to other brewers. pinched So I went for a hop that would work okay as a substitute - Topaz (love this hop). love

 

The DIY Beer version is massively hop forward compared to the commercial brew. w00t

I formulate it in this way to give even greater longevity.

I don't bother with the Styrian Golding and Cascade additions because they simply get swamped by the huge hop hit of the other three varieties. sideways

 

If you can, do a side-by-side tasting of your own ESVA '16 version against the commercial. wink

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I've actually just added the dry hop tonight and I got to tell you it smells bloody good. I'm really looking forward to bottling and tasting in a couple of weeks.

 

If you had to get 6-8 variety of hops that you can utilise for all of your home brews what would it be? I'm a novice.

 

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Depends on what you want to make, really. I currently have Cascade, Centennial, Chinook, Czech Saaz, East Kent Goldings, Fuggles and a couple of others in my freezer, with plans to try out some new varieties (for me) over the coming months. These allow me to brew my 3 favourite styles of APA, ESB and Czech pilsner regularly.

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Sorry I should have been clearer, I like ales more than lagers now days. The ESVA is the first time I've added hops to a brew. I'd like add them to my brews now but I don't know which ones to buy. I don't want to buy something that I'm only going to use once.

 

Any recommendations?

 

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Sorry I should have been clearer' date=' I like ales more than lagers now days. The ESVA is the first time I've added hops to a brew. I'd like add them to my brews now but I don't know which ones to buy. I don't want to buy something that I'm only going to use once.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Cheers [/quote']

 

For American Pale Ales for me Cascade is a must but also use Citra, Amarillo, Galaxy and Mosiac. Galaxy is an Aussie hop and I regard it as a super hop so don't use too much as it can be dominating but in the right combination really nice. Also others that Otto mentioned Centennial and Chinook I believe are great in APAs.

 

For English Pale Ales I like East Kent Goldings, Fuggles and Styrian Goldings. Willamette is also another good one I believe. This is just what I have used but many other brewers here may have other favourites also.

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Red Sox,

As with beauty, taste is also very individual. And, with the vast array of hops on offer, and ways/times to use them, your question is impossible to answer. You will have try different combinations and see what suits.

I myself took advantage of woollies recent sales of coopers OS kits, and bought a number of Real Ales (as I quite like that as a base),, and, in my craft FV, made a series of brews using different hops (same amounts, same timings), to see the difference, after having purchased a bunch of different hops.

The result? I like them all! Surprise, surprise! The hops I tried - falconersflight, Galaxy, Goldings, Waimea, Motueka, cascade, vic secret, Citra. Personally I preferred the Falconersflight and the vic secret, but I now have at least an idea how I will mix and match these in the future, when I intend to make a heap of IPAs!

Hope this helps

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Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated.

 

I bottled my ESVA and, I can tell you that it's the best smelling beer that I have come across in my life. Now I know what a difference hops can have on a brew.......simply amazing. I'm so glad I bought this kit.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I bottled my ESVA tonight and see on the commercial version that the flavour will develop over a period of 5 years. Will the home brew still be developing in 5 years if stored appropriately or should i drink it before then? I only put 1 carbonation drop into a dozen long necks with the idea of drinking them over an extended period but how long would be to long??

Thanks

Dale

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