Mark D Pirate Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It might be my imagination but the heffe seems to be more bland now than it was a few weeks ago , still picking up a banana bread start , light hops but almost bubblegum finish that I'm almost sure wasn't there a few weeks ago , looks great in the glass with a marshmallow head on pour , cloudy as expected but just not quite the same . It was stored for 2 weeks or so at 24°C after bottling then put in pantry at Adelaide old stone building ambient (been rather warm ) .....I thought flavours were pretty well locked in after bottling ? Can't pick up the same aroma I had on early samples either .....curious but still pretty tasty Cheers Marko :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 G'day Markoman, in my experience you've got to drink weissbier really quick as I have found the same as you, that the flavour starts to drop off noticeably after a couple of weeks. Not much, but they don't have the same freshness and pop as when they were just carbonated. Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 G'day Markoman' date=' in my experience you've got to drink weissbier really quick as I have found the same as you, that the flavour starts to drop off noticeably after a couple of weeks. Not much, but they don't have the same freshness and pop as when they were just carbonated. Cheers, John[/quote'] +1 And don't keg it. Cheers & Beers Scottie Valley Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yep, absolutely don't keg it ... you need it nice and fizzy and yeasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Still has plenty of fizz and yeastiness but think pop is a good description of what its lost a 450 ml bottle will fill an imp. Pint glass perfectly with the best head retention of any batch so far . I had thought that brew was infected and was very close to tipping it but will now try harder to just drink it faster . Do saison degrade quickly in the bottle as well ? Have a batch I'm bottling on Feb 3. Happy brewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Fules Gold AKA fu(gg)les Gold Just tapped this one, 3 weeks kegged after 4 weeks in the Fermenter. It is amazing the difference 1/2 whirlfloc makes when you remember to add it to the boil, there is no Chill Haze on this one. This one uses my Golden Ale Grain Bill and hop schedule yet the Fuggle/Maris Otter combination is predominate at this early stage. These two go together like horse and carriage. Lovely English style beer, time to pull my second one. Cheers & Beers Scottie Valley Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Do saison degrade quickly in the bottle as well ? Have a batch I'm bottling on Feb 3. Not the ones I have brewed, they all got better and better with each month in the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 My last CitRyePA. One of the better beers I have brewed. I'll have to grab a half of Citra again and brew it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suds1525229681 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 So this one jumped the keg Que. It's up there with the best kit I've done as I had suspected from the smell bubbling out the FV. When it was fermenting it has a mango / melon / passion fruit smell. It's a little bit bitter, but I like that in a beer. It's lost that Mango when it was fermenting and has more of a really nice smooth citrus flavor. Very, very refreshing. This one is on the list for a quick turn around brew. Not even a month from start to finish and it's a bloody good drop.... Only thing I would change would be dry hoping later, maybe 2 days before cold crashing. Thanks Coopers, Your Australian Pale Ale is Amazingly good for a kit beer. Hi All. First post here. Thought I'd share this one I put down last week. Got the idea from another forum and tweaked it a little. Couldn't resist taking a sample because the smell is driving me crazy and whack…. Its going to be a ripper beer. 1.7kg Coopers Australia Pale Ale 1.5kg Morgans Extra pale malt extract liquid 10g 15min Galaxy 25g 10min Cascade 20g 10min Citra 10g 10min Galaxy Yeast US05 20g Citra dry hopped day 5 30g Cascade dry hopped day 5 Brew size - 23 litres Brew Date - 10/1/16 Cold Crash - Keg Date - Ferment at 18 degrees OG - 1046 FG - Finished up FG - 1.010 ABV - 4.64 Cheers, Suds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hey Suds That looks like a nice mix of hops. I have combined Galaxy and Citra as well as Cascade and Galaxy with great results. Good luck refining the hop schedule. Cheers & Beers Scottie Valley Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Chinook Pale Ale today. Trying a couple of glasses during today's brew day. It has been kegged since Tuesday, so it does need more time for the flavours to meld better, and also for the yeast to drop fully, but promising so far. Getting a bit of a pineapple flavour out of it, if a little tart at the moment but that should mellow out. Could be due to adding CaSO4 and MgSO4 to the mash water. Or maybe that's just Chinook on its own. Not a bad drop though, nice and refreshing too. Cheers Kelsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Here it is Fules Gold You'd be a fool not to brew it. Cheers & Beers Scottie Valley Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 PS Kelsey that Chinook Pale Ale looks the goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I dunno mate... that Fules Gold looks pretty bloody good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Yeah it's pretty good. I do love the smell of Chinook in the boil though so maybe I should give a Chinook SMASH a go. However this Monday is a Public Holiday down here and I am doing your Red Ale again. Cheers & Beers Scottie Valley Brew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Not the ones I have brewed' date=' they all got better and better with each month in the bottle.[/quote']To test my theory I had another of my Wyeast 3725 Saison yesterday afternoon. It's been in the bottle for about 6 weeks now and is getting nicer and nicer. I've got about 8 bottles left of this now. Also had a cheeky sample of my Belgo-inspired pale ale after a week and a half in the bottle. Carbonation is nice already but the beer as a whole will definitely be better with a bit more time. I can taste plenty of potential, but the final 7% ABV gives it a little more body and fullness than I was hoping for. The alcohol doesn't stick out or anything, just makes it taste a bit 'bigger' than expected. I'll have another sample in a month or so and see how it's all coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Nice looking beers Kelsey & Scottie. Lovely clarity & hue on that one of yours Scottie. Beers in that colour spectrum I generally gravitate towards as there is usually something very yummy about them. A little while back I brewed a beer I dubbed "Grapefruit Overload". It solely used Chinook & Riwaka. Both of these hops throw big grapefruit flavours/aromas. The beer turned out pleasant enough, but I felt was very one dimensional when it came to the hop character. One could say it lacked a certain 'Je Ne Sais Quoi'. Much like my view of Citra & Nelson Sauvin, I feel these two hops probably work a little better when mixed in with other complimentary varieties. Others may see it differently of course. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Citra & Nelson Sauvin' date=' I feel these two hops probably work a little better when mixed in with other complimentary varieties. [/quote'] I have unfortunately finished a Citra Rye IPA and it was stunning. It had Citra, Centennial and Azacca with a fair whack of rye. Currently drinking a Citra Pale, late hopped with Citra, no dry hop some rye, yum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Do saison degrade quickly in the bottle as well ? Have a batch I'm bottling on Feb 3. Not the ones I have brewed' date=' they all got better and better with each month in the bottle.[/quote'] great to know , CBA bottling it during the week so it got a little longer in FV and early signs look promising . not quite as funky as one of Ben 10s saisons i'm betting since i kept temps below 25 max The golden ale is developing well in the bottle , when i learn how to upload photos i'll do so but has wonderful colour/aroma and is running out fast since friends also rather like it . Unreal ale is still a little young but sneaky test bottle was pretty good so far have almost run out of bottles by now , faced with dilemma of either A: buying PETs B: tipping the degrading but still tasty heffe out or C: drinking faster without the help/advice i got here i'd have given up so big thanks all round marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 C: drinking faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 C: drinking faster Could be dangerous ...how warm do you let your Saison get during ferment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 My last with Wyeast Biere De Garde was pitched when ambient was .................. 35°c. Apparently that yeast has minimal funk. No issues at all, tastes great. I'd be scared to try that will Belle. I'll make one with MJ's Belgian in the next few days, it's still bloddy warm here, see how that goes. I don't use a fridge for Saison. The FV sits on my brew desk at whatever temp the shed is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Cheers Lusty. I hope the tartness or whatever it is mellows with more time in the keg though. I'm pretty sure the red ale keg doesn't have much left in it now, but it just keeps on keeping on, I had 3 pints plus this schooner of it yesterday through the brew day, and will use the bottles for weeknight beers after work. The sweetness has diminished a little since it was first kegged and it tastes much more balanced now, either that or I've just sort of gotten used to it. Whatever the case, it's a really nice version of the recipe. Cheers Kelsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 My last with Wyeast Biere De Garde was pitched when ambient was .................. 35°c. Apparently that yeast has minimal funk. No issues at all' date=' tastes great. I'd be scared to try that will Belle. .[/quote'] ohhh...i used danstar belle , not too funky at my temps i remember what FNQ an NT wet season feels like ....here in Radelaide it's a dry heat and 25 mm of rain is enough to cause chaos here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Whatever the case' date=' it's a really nice version of the recipe. [img']happy[/img] Looks yummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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