NeilE1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 give it a few weeks in the bottle then taste a bottle at say 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 week, 12 weeks etc, until you have consumed it all and just keep a record of the taste test. the hardest thing is waiting, but being patient is rewarding good luck with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 im going to have a crack at doing a European lager and add in some Light DME. any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi Neil. The more sugar you change for malt the better, within reason. I reckon you still want a few simple sugars with this one to keep it dry enough. Maybe try: Euro lager kit 500g DME 300g Sugar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 [biggrin] that was a prompt reply can I use light DME with the BEH2?? and again can I brew it down to between the 17 and 20litre mark?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 out of interest it was only very recently I noticed a Coopers Light DME on the Big W shelf how long has this been available??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It's been available there for as far back as I can remember. As far as mixing BE with DME, of course you can. [cool] You just need to remember that DME won't completely ferment out. You will get a higher FG if you add malt to BE, but that may be what you want? And the level you make it up to is up to you as well. You just need to remember: It will be more bitter. It will be a darker colour. It will finish a little higher (FG). It will be stronger. [devil] The cool thing about brewing your own is that you can do most anything you like to your batch, as long as you are aware of what your changes will do to the finished product. [happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 out of interest it was only very recently I noticed a Coopers Light DME on the Big W shelf how long has this been available??? I have been brewing for 3 years and it as been available all that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi guys. Just a point about the Diacetyl rest when lager brewing. I distinctly remember PB2 posting some info about it in a similar thread a while back. If memory serves me well, he indicated that a diacetyl rest was only necessary towards the end of primary fermentation IF you plan to keg the beer. If you are bottling, it is not required as the natural bottle conditioning phase will take care of that issue. I did try to find the post, as opposed to quoting it, but was unable to locate it. I'm quite happy to be corrected if I have misquoted what was originally stated. Cheers, Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Yeah, it has been said many times that bottle conditioning is a d-rest. But if you have the capability to do it in primary then why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 im a little shocked the Big W at colonnades in the 2 years and a bit years ive been brewing has never had that coopers LME but now its there ill give it a go! just picked up 2 coopers euro lagers + BEH2 and the LME ill do one batch to around the 18 litres and the other to 23litres and compare the two of them. will hopefully get these kits down at some stage during the week. by my reckoning they will be in pristine condition for x-mas + new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Hi NeilE1. Just out of curiosity, what are the complete recipes you plan to brew in 18 & 23 litre volumes? Also, do you have adequate means of temperature control for brewing lager beers throughout primary fermentation? Cheers, Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I do a D-rest on every lager I brew, whether I detect it or not. I just do it in the primary as per my above post. Because I mainly brew lagers in winter, once they are bottled they sit in the cupboard and I have no idea what temps they are sitting at. The whole point of the D-rest is to raise the temp of the brew a few degrees higher than ferment temps. Not much point or use if they are sitting at ferment temps in the cupboard. In the brew fridge I can just up the temp on the STC, possibly use some sort of heating device to bring it up, and I know where it's sitting. I just have to make sure I time it right. But in saying that I do have the capability to do it that way, with the brew fridge and all, though I can't see why you wouldn't if you also have the means. [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hi NeilE1. Just out of curiosity, what are the complete recipes you plan to brew in 18 & 23 litre volumes? Also, do you have adequate means of temperature control for brewing lager beers throughout primary fermentation? Cheers, Anthony. contemplating can of euro lager Beh 2 700g light dry malt extract 500g brew to 19litres temperature control is fine, I have a sauna, the temp very rarely moves around, unless I use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hi NeilE1. temperature control is fine' date=' I have a sauna, the temp very rarely moves around, unless I use it![/quote'] And what temperature are you aiming to maintain in this sauna of yours through primary fermentation? Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I aim to maintain a temp of 14 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Sounds fine Neil. And luckily Lusty underlined the word 'temperature' or I would have struggled with it [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I aim to maintain a temp of 14 degrees Good stuff. [happy] Without knowing exactly what sort of setup you do have there Neil, just be aware that during primary fermentation it is normal for the temperature inside the fermenter to rise by approx. 2 degrees (give or take a few points), without the ability to counter the increase in temperature by means of controlled refrigeration. I'm not sure how you are accurately measuring the temperature of the brew wort in your fermenter during primary fermentation, but below is a link to a simple & inexpensive temp probe that will give you exact readings on your brew wort at all times. Cheap Temperature Probe A good thick gob of Blu-Tak covering the outside of the probe sensor (to insulate against outside ambient temperature), & then simply attach to the outside wall of your fermenter. Good luck with the brew. P.S. I do find myself underlining comments more often when in retort with Hairy! [biggrin] Cheers, Anthony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 im a big fan of the cling wrap also![biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Cling wrap rocks! I use it on my non-Coopers FV. But don't tell Lusty or he will worry about you getting an infection [wink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 im a big fan of the cling wrap also![biggrin] Me too Neil. Been using it for over a decade now on 100+ brews. I've had one or two infected bottles in that time, but never an infected FV. Who'd have thought. [roll] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilE1 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I know the cling wrap is slightly off topic but I love the cling wrap because you can SEE what is happening with the brew without disturbing it.[happy] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I know the cling wrap is slightly off topic but I love the cling wrap because you can SEE what is happening with the brew without disturbing it.[happy] The good thing about this forum is that we DON'T get our arses busted for going off topic. It makes for a much more easy going atmosphere which I wouldn't trade for the world. [love] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I know the cling wrap is slightly off topic but I love the cling wrap because you can SEE what is happening with the brew without disturbing it.[happy] The good thing about this forum is that we DON'T get our arses busted for going off topic. It makes for a much more easy going atmosphere which I wouldn't trade for the world. [love] You only say that because you are the main culprit [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 temperature control is fine, I have a sauna Must be planning to brew a steam beer are you? [lol] [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 temperature control is fine, I have a sauna Must be planning to brew a steam beer are you? [lol] [innocent] [lol] [lol] Good one Kelsey! [biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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