King Ruddager Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 There's a few threads about this one and a recipe on CraigTube as well, but last time I made the EB porter it wasn't quite right so I must've buggered up somewhere along the way. That was a year ago though and very early days for me, so I'm keen to give it another crack. In fact, I've already got the kit!! So, hit me with your English Bitter based porter recipes why not. If it helps at all, I go crazy over the Lobethal Bierhaus's "Red Truck Porter", so if anyone's familiar with it then please help me out [smile] General recipe Having looked at several of these recipes now there's clearly some common ingredients, so here's a breakdown: Base1.7Kg English Bitter (of course) Fermentables 1.0-1.7Kg light DME (or LME equivalent), tending towards the lower end of the scale 200g brown sugar (usually when using less than 1.2Kg DME) Grains 200-300g chocolate malt (600 or 1200 to balance colour) 50-150g roast barley (optional - some argue there shouldn't be any at all but 100g is often used) 150-500g crystal (light or medium to balance colour) 100-200g smoked malt (optional) Hops Up to 30g Fuggles or East Kent Goldings for 10 mins (optional, and divided as you see fit) Yeast Your choice. S04, Cooper's, Windsor and Nottingham have all been suggested Recipes from around the forum ... Revised recipe1.7Kg English Bitter 300g chocolate grain 250 medium crystal grain 100g roasted barley 200g dark brown sugar 1kg light dry malt 21g Coopers yeast made to 21 litres Revised recipe1.7Kg English Bitter 300g Choc malt 600 100g Roast Barley 200g Medium Crystal 120 1kg of DME 200g Dark Brown Sugar (either this or molasses) 15g EKG @10mins 15g EKG @flame out Yeast S04 Original post1.7kg English Bitter 1.5kg Coopers light LME 200g Pale chocolate malt (~600) 150g Roast barley (~1300) 150g Light Crystal (~60) 200g Brown sugar 30g Fuggles @10 Nottingham yeast 23L 1.7kg EB Tin 1kg LDM 150g Dry Wheat Malt 250g Chocolate Malt 200g Caramunich 150g Dark Crystal 50g Carafa III Nottingham Yeasties 21 litre batch Cooper's "Robo Choc" recipe of the month from July' date=' 2014 ...[/b'] Recipe1.7kg English Bitter 1.5kg amber liquid malt extract 250g white sugar 300g dark crystal 200g chocolate malt 100g roasted malt Nottingham yeast 22L Other recipes ... 1.7Kg English Bitter 1.5kg light liquid malt extract 500g light dry malt 500g crystal 60L 230g chocolate Malt 30g Fuggles @10 minutes 1 worlflock tablet or irish moss for clearing Windsor English Style yeast Original post1.7kg English Bitter 1.7kg OS Stout 200g smoked Malt 200g dextrose 23L water 14g Cooper's Ale Yeast (rehydrated) 1.7kg OS Draught Kit 1.5kg liquid amber malt extract 250g brown sugar 250g dark crystal 125g choc malt 50g roasted barley 30g fuggles @15 min rehydrated 2x kit yeasts 19-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH21 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'll be watching this thread After bottling my current brew, I'm planning on a Honey Malt Ale 1 x Coopers English Bitters 1kg Amber DME 0.5kg BE2 (cos i wanna get rid of it) 0.75g Honey 2 x Coopers Ale Sachets - pitch at 24 degrees Ferment at 18 degrees I'm looking for a fireside winter warmer - e.g. pint glasses with handles, beanies on heads, big beards, a bonfire and a Harley Davidson that won't start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 To begin with, this is Craig's recipe: 1.5kg light liquid malt extract 1 can Coopers English Bitter 500g Light Dry Malt Extract 500g Crystal 60L 230g Chocolate Malt 30g Fuggles Hops @10 minutes 1 worlflock tablet or irish moss for clearing Windsor English Style Yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I remember making a very similar one to Craig's some time ago. I reckon I just did the EB kit, 1kg DME, 250g Dex, 300-400g Chocolate and no Crystal. I always had the feeling that the EB kit has a fair bit of that kind of flavour any way, and I [love] chocolate malt. Reckon I probably threw some EKG or Fuggles into a boil with the grain steepings and boom. I even used Windsor too I think. Was a treat. [happy] EDIT: If you're not used to Windsor, be aware that it will go ape shit for 3-4 days then stop dead at a slightly higher gravity than you'd think. This is normal. [pinched] Reckon mine was around 1.018-1.019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I go crazy over the Lobethal Bierhaus's "Red Truck Porter +1 Your majesty has impeccable taste in fine SA craft beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Mmmmm If I had to rank my beers on being closest to the real thing then SteveL's EB Porter would be #1. No mistaking this for what it is, very close to a James Squire Jack Of Spades, probably a bit dark though. As I have said before this one is about the grains and I think the hops would be out of place, or even wasted as they battle to those roasted chocolate flavours for recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Looks damn tasty Scottsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 I might turn this thread into an EB porter recipe resource of sorts actually - from now on I'll start adding recipes to the top post why not. I see that Steve L's recipe is only for 21 litres - would it hurt much to make it up to 23? Perhaps I could add 10% more LDM and grains? There's no good reason for this of course, just that I know I can get 30 bottles out of 23L and I like even numbers [bandit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Mmmm, research ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 just that I know I can get 30 bottles out of 23L and I like even numbers [bandit] 23 ain't an even number cocky. Anyway I reckon if your going up 2 litres in 21 i.e. close enough to 10%, then I reckon increase all ingredients, except the yeast, by 10% and you've got it. Pedantic dudes would say increased the yeast by 10% also [rightful] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Hope the research is going well King. I'me off to the SoHo tonight, they have all teh JS range, I might try one for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Lobethal over JS any day mate. [cool] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Lobethal over JS any day mate. [cool] QFT. In fact, I'm starting to think it's my outright favourite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share Posted April 28, 2013 Righto, first (second now) iteration recipe ... 1.7kg English Bitter 1.5kg Coopers light LME 200g Pale chocolate malt (~600) 150g Roast barley (~1300) 150g Light Crystal (~60) 200g Brown sugar 30g Fuggles @10 Nottingham yeast? OG 1.050 FG 1.012 IBU 37.4 EBC 61.0 ABV 5.1% Fits within the parameters of a "Robust Porter" according to that international whatsit of styles. Hopefully there's enough grains in there to get the roasted, chocolatey flavour I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveH21 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I gotta make a couple of these styles for the coming winter before my brew room gets too cold. It's sitting at a beautiful 18 degrees at the moment but that will probably drop to about 11 by mid June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Okie dokie, I updated the list at the top with links and new recipes (including AdamH's Poita Porter and my yet-to-be-brewed aggregate porter which, looking at it, has a lot more roasted barley than the rest). I hope this turns into a useful thread. If anyone thinks I've missed anyone's recipes then please let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Oh, also, it turns out this thread is really easy to find because of the word "dictionary" in the title. Just Google "eb porter dictionary" or "english bitter porter dictionary". In fact, here, let me Google that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Good work King! It is a useful resource in one post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Nice post, David![cool] It reminds me that I should put another porter down. I can't help but think about how tasty that toucan porter is. It was quite thick and rich with the smokey malt in the nose. And so simple to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Mmmmm If I had to rank my beers on being closest to the real thing then SteveL's EB Porter would be #1. No mistaking this for what it is, very close to a James Squire Jack Of Spades, probably a bit dark though. As I have said before this one is about the grains and I think the hops would be out of place, or even wasted as they battle to those roasted chocolate flavours for recognition. Agree with all Scottie said there, have done many variations and hops get lost in this one, it's all about the choc grain and roasted barley. To clarify, it's not my original recipe, I reckon I found it on AHB ages ago and have been happily tweaking ever since. Not sure it was intended as a JS clone, but who cares: I reckon it's better than JS anyway! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Well, just put my recipe down. It went well actually - I didn't even forget any ingredients for a change! Fingers crossed for good results, or else I'll be forced to remove my own recipe from the list [sad] Seemed good out of the hydrometer though [wink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Very disappointing. I look forward to hearing about your brewing disasters each week [biggrin] Good to hear it went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Hah! Well if you must know I accidentally got the grains up above 80\xb0 and almost left the veggie steamer I use to keep the grain bag off the bottom in during the boil. Made a lot more mess than usual too, but that doesn't affect the brew itself. In fact I got wet grains all over the floor and am waiting for it to dry up so that I can sweep it easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Hah! Well if you must know I accidentally got the grains up above 80\xb0 and almost left the veggie steamer I use to keep the grain bag off the bottom in during the boil. Made a lot more mess than usual too, but that doesn't affect the brew itself. In fact I got wet grains all over the floor and am waiting for it to dry up so that I can sweep it easily. That's the stuff I needed; you are like a dealer in my hour of need. Thanks mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ruddager Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Sampled my test sample last night - I think I'm going to have to name mine "Ruddager's Coffee Porter" based on the results. Might change names again after bottling and conditioning, but that's what it is for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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