Dutchbrew76 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 my other half would like to see me brew something else but beer, so i have purchased a cider can (brigalow) and would like to make a sweet cider. it has been suggested that i use lactose in the brew has anyone got any recipe suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I'm interested in doing a sweet cider too. I was going to use 12L of aldi apple juice and 8L of Apple & Pear juice. I was thinking of useing lactose or maybe just splenda to bring the sweetness up. I was going to use Safale S-04 yeast and maybe a bit of yeast nutrient. I am also considering adding malt (for which the purists would surely beat me with their handbags). So basically I'm just saying that I'd also be interested in any advice or ideas that anyone may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 The nutrients in the malt may help the yeast. If you keg - you won't need to add lactose or sweeteners - just stop the ferment short of FG, rack to a secondary and cold condition for a week or so, transfer to a keg and force carb with CO2. Cider is more subtle in flavour than beer so I would be using something cleaner than S-04. Nottingham, perhaps?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchbrew76 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks guy's, but kegging isn't in my budget just yet so it's bottles for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Might be worth checking the ingredients on the Brigalow can - it may have some form of artificial sweetener?? If not, you will probably need a lot of lactose (bucket loads) to achieve the sweetness that your other half likes. There are degrees of sweetness, what commercial ciders do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchbrew76 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 yes there is artificial sweetner in can, strongbow sweet if poss, guy from lhbs suggested brewcraft no15 enhancer and lactose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Try it out and let us know how you get on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Dropped into Two Brothers the other night and tried their new pear apple cider, called Gypsy. Very easy to drink on a hot night and the wife loved it. I asked Andrew how they get the residual sweetness. A similar technique to Paul's suggestion, he said that they estimate when the brew will get to around 4% and then they put the chillers on. When its chilled they filter it into the serving tanks. It doesn't matter if it is 4am, Andrew will head down to the brewery to put those chillers on. Just like home brewing, I suppose but on a bigger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJosh Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Paul...nats always on at me to make a cider..... maybe Coopers should make a kit cider? What do you think would be the best way to do it? from a kit? or can i just get 23 liters of juice.....would be kinda expensive....then just chuck some yeast in?....ale?....or Lager? would that work? anyother ideas? Cheers! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchbrew76 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 there are a few juice recipe's for cider on the ahb site and they recommend champagne yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I reckon the champagne yeast would leave it too dry for me. I've never really been a cider drinker but if I was I'd go for a sweet one. Josh - The juice isn't really expensive at about $1 a litre + whatever you spend on yeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Josh, I had a go at making cider from a kit years ago (late 80's) and haven't tried since so I can't help much on this one. Why not make your own beer and buy Nat cider?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJosh Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Thanks people! I was thinking of just using juice and yeast.....but i would have no idea how much fermentable sugar is in the juice!? could turn out really strong!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 You'll have some idea by taking a reading of the SG. Why not plan to make a brew at around the 15 litre mark, once mixed, take the SG reading and if way too high add some more water. A very rough rule of thumb for estimated alcohol when also secondary fermenting: OG 1028 - 3.5% OG 1032 - 4% OG 1036 - 4.5% OG 1040 - 5% OG 1044 - 5.5% OG 1048 - 6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJosh Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 thanks for that info paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 If you have a look around on AHB (Where you have another topic running - Hedging your bets eh Josh) they list somewhere the expected gravity of Juice (1040???). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchbrew76 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 i have just looked at my cider nicely clearing up in the bottle and thinking maybe i should have racked this brew any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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